100kmph or below
101-120kmph
121-140kmph
141kmph-160kmph
161kmph-180kmph
181kmph-200kmph
201kmph-220kmph
Redline to the deadline
gee wizzz
Heres a unique concept --Rather than speed limits how about DRIVERS get speed rated. -Sure you can drive at 140km/h but YOU personally need to prove you can drive that vehicle at 140
OHH WAIT --sorry this is the mother state--HOW COULD IT WORK?
we would have noone but ourselves to blame for fuckups
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Special Project
Often thought about that - but the problem is that it wouldn't work having people who can do 140Kph and people who can only do 80.
What I really do believe in is:
Certain vehicles should not be allowed on the open road - i.e Mazda 121s and Toyota Starlets. They run on razorblades and blow around like a bubble in anything more than a fart.
AND
There should be a distance after a speed limit sign - if you aren't doing that speed by then - you should be fined. This includes people who accelerate too slowly. If you, or your vehicle are not capable of reaching or handling this speed, you shouldn't be there.
But those of you who know me know I'm no advocate for following speed limits - love the suggestions though
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WD-40 if it doesn't move and it should.
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gee wizzz
it wouldn't work why??-if you dont have the right licence you can't go on the motorway for example-and having MINIMUM speed limits on the motorways.
Ohh and ENFORCING the keep left laws--
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Special Project
Fair enough to needing a licence for the motorway. But can you imagine coming over a crest at 140KPH to find a driver doing only 80KPH. You'd get twits getting angry about them being on a 140KPH licence stuck behind some 'tard on a 100KPH licence - not to mention the idiots who already act like they own the road.
You only need two tools in life:
Duct tape if it moves and it shouldn't.
WD-40 if it doesn't move and it should.
Brute force and ignorance always prevails.
Failure comes from too little brute force, or
too little ignorance.
Homo Sapiens Vulgaris
An interesting thought. I've sometimes considered whether it would be possible to do independent driver assesment and through that give some sort of individual "speeding allowance". Let's say you do a lot of handling courses and tests to show that you can indeed drive with skill and maturity - then you get a +30 km/h (or +30% which would make more sense IMO) proviso that you can exceed the speedlimit by.
Exceeding your privilege (and your license in and of itself should be considered that) and it's all gone for a while and you'd have to start from scratch.
Although, as someone said - enforcing and controlling such a system would be a nightmare. Enough bureacrazy down here already!!!
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Forum whore
Wouldn't be all that difficult...What about different coloured cards that could fit in a pocket on the screen, as in rego stickers?
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Semi-retired
But no-one here speeds, we all stick to 100km/h, so i don't see what your problem is(point taken)
Homo Sapiens Vulgaris
Oh, trust me, it would be extremely difficult to implement, to avoid abuse of the system, to enforce and police and then you'd need to setup an entire system handling the training and testing. Not easy at all.
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Semi-retired
my 82' starlet may take a while to get there but it is not impossible to lose your licences in it!
hehe, i really shouldn't treat the little thing like that...
com-mute
Drive to the conditions...
From Wellington to Auckland hmm
IMHO most of SH1 can be safely driven / ridden at 120, the moronway up to 130-140.
Bends, brows of hills, wet roads, intersections, other road users, unsure = slow down.
clear roads = speed up.
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The desert creature
I'd say my average would be around 30-50kph (pubs, nice sightseeing places to stop and take a couple of photos, leaks, etc), top would probably be speed limit + 30 kph, assuming I will be on the bike capable of doing that. Right now it is pretty damn hard for me to get a decent speeding ticket in a 100kph zone.
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L-Plate Rider
But that's not a bad thing, it'll take a while to get through all the dumb ones though.20 up to 150 ks depending on the conditions.
Weekend cruiser
Chuck a 5K and a turbo in and you'll be off the clock before you know it
As for the speeding, while it would be nice to travel at any chosen speed it also leaves other people to travel at the own desired speed which may be a lot less than yours. Bit of a bitch if you come around a corner and find someone only doing 120 when you know you can easily take it at 160 and are doing so.
As for limiting cars and drivers, it'll never work. If you have drivers allowed to do certain speeds and other not then those that are allowed to go faster are going to get pulled up all the time just for checks and it'll be a waste of time.
Minimum speeds are a stupid idea also. Would be nice if everyone did 100 on the open road, but if you set a minimum speed then thats going to be an easy excuse for an accident. Someone slows for a corner or a tree on the road or something and you come flying up behind them at the minimum speed and kill someone then its due to the minimum speed law as if we didn't have it you would have been going slower at that point in the road.
We don't need different speed laws, we need police to be able to decide what is dangerous and ticket accordingly, and for more patient people on the roads.
Forum whore
Unfortunately this way of determining who is mostly at fault involves a sampling bias.
In fatales the riders are no longer around to post about it on KB.
If you had bothered to look at NZ statistics, you would see that 75% of fatal motorcycle accident were the fault of the riders.
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