Owners of nice bikes who can't ride

[The Pastor]

actually last sat week, i met the two doorknobs that bought the 8k zxr 250's from red barron. that was a laugh.

[imdying]

If perceived image is the reason you want to purchase a particular bike, then that makes you the poseur. When I ride, I ride for my own enjoyment at my own pace (whatever that may be) and I could not give a flying fuck what others may think regardless of what bike I may choose to own. The moment you start riding to "impress" your mates or show off to other road users, you enter a very dangerous zone.

Yep... buy the bikes you like, ride em how you like. If I win lotto, I'm gonna buy a 312 to smash with a sledgehammer, just piss all the moaners off. Then I'm gonna take the motor and put it into a minichopper

actually last sat week, i met the two doorknobs that bought the 8k zxr 250's from red barron. that was a laugh.

Being young and getting ripped off doesn't make them doorknobs, it just makes Red Baron opportunistic wankers.

[Elise]

It seems like a few KB members have issues with those who own a nice bike and can't ride it to its full capacity. Some would consider the bike to be wasted on its owner.

At the end of that day, if someone wants to spend ludicrous amounts of money to mount their V-rod to their wall, good on them. Same goes if they want to own a 1098 and cruise at 90kph. If you want to ride slower, it doesn't dictate that you have to ride a cruiser or something with less power. The bike you buy and what you do with it is your prerogative.

I know I can't ride my RSVR like Valentino but I'm not going to apologise for having the money to afford it. I love the look of my bike and it suits my purpose. What's it to you if I never "master it"?

Agreed..

Then again, when it comes to Learner rider’s who buy a expensive, fast, mint cond 250 (and in some cases an even bigger bike because they lack common sense), without the knowledge of basic handling/ riding skills etc, only to damage themselves or worse the bike.. it pays sometimes to start low and work your way up and develop your skills, even if you have all the money in the world to buy the most expensive, most amazing bike out there. Riding performance is not so much the bike, but the rider anyway.

[The Pastor]

i'll have to agree with you there, but i dont see how two people can justify spending twice the market value on some shitty 250's.

but hey if they have money to burn its up to them.

red barron wankers or genius? what you reckon they payed for the bikes 1k? 2k? paint job? 1k? 1.5k?

thats alot of profit there.

still kinda feel bad for them. (the new owners)

[Mikkel]

Another thought... a nice bike won't stay nice unless the person riding it knows how to ride. And sometimes you'll find that the ones who claim the opposite are the ones with aftermarket fairings and an intimate relationship with their insurance broker

[The Pastor]

Short term profit = long term loss....also bad karma man

as they say, there is a sucker born every minnute. I never have liked red barron, they lie to me all the time lol. so do all bike shops, but red barron are the worst, but I do get good service when I walk into the shop always they will come up and start feeding me the bullshit. - lots of other stores just ignore me.

[Pancakes]

............... Unfortunately, exercising restraint equates to being a "bad rider".

You mean you think the haters look down on those who buy a bike and don't use all the speed on tap? Or all the handling? Even those who crash are normally past their own limits but quite often not past the limits of the bike. They just gave the machine the wrong input and made it crash, it doesn't think after all.

I think showing restaint is displaying a more deliberate technique than the ones who open the tap wide on the straights and hit the picks at the end. Holding a steady constant gets you less attention from the po-po and unless your trying to show the newly polished ride off past as many cafe's as possible the speed shouldn't be to expensive and probably not fast enough to lose your licence if you know where the corners are that are worth riding!

Some of us choose to ride smaller capacity bikes for that very same reason.

I'm enjoying the Hyosung as much or more than some of the other bikes I've had just due to the big picture my life is at the moment. Learning lots and hope to keep learning.

I really hate it tho whan people look at my bike and think they know me or how I ride. I don't think someones a wanker just cos they have priortised things or are in a position to get their dream bike.

[MidnightMike]

I'll let loose up the Kaimais but tend to restrain myself everywhere else - you need to save that sort of crap for the track. Unfortunately, exercising restraint equates to being a "bad rider".

I really dont need to comment very much now, you just summed up exactly what I was going to say lol.

I have to agree with the fact that its fine to by a bike that is capable of much more than you will ever throw at it, if its your choice, great! Thats probably what will happen when I finally decide to go to a litre bike, or whatever my next one will be. However, for now and untill next march im quite happy blasting up the kaimais doing what my bike wasnt made for and having an absolute blast doing so. But this will, of course, really be the only place where I will push my bike to its limit, as thats the road on which I know every corner, bump etc. Everywhere else I'm quite happy just pootling along, enjoying the bike ive got and the riding experience!

[MotoGirl]

However, for now and untill next march im quite happy blasting up the kaimais doing what my bike wasnt made for and having an absolute blast doing so. But this will, of course, really be the only place where I will push my bike to its limit, as thats the road on which I know every corner, bump etc.

You're starting to sound like you're really coming to grips with it! Hopefully when you get another bike you'll have to learn it so I might have a couple of months of being in front left

I'd probably liken my riding up the Kaimais to how I used to ride on the track. I've seen guys with their knee down so I can obviously go faster yet

[jrandom]

I've seen guys with their knee down so I can obviously go faster yet

Knee down only equals faster if you're using all the lean angle your bike has available.

If their knee was not actually sandwiched between the road and the fairing, then it doesn't mean a lot.

[kiwifruit]

Knee down only equals faster if you're using all the lean angle your bike has available.

If their knee was not actually sandwiched between the road and the fairing, then it doesn't mean a lot.

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[jrandom]

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Yes. Bow before my wisdom.

You actually go slower with your knee down, mister leakybob italypants.

I have seen it with mine eyes.

[kiwifruit]

Yes. Bow before my wisdom.

You actually go slower with your knee down, mister leakybob italypants.

I have seen it with mine eyes.

Bollocks.
Since mastering the knee down i have advanced noticeably.
Never before could i brake really hard entering a corner, until i mastered the knee down. Now i can enter corners knee down hard on the brakes.
I find the knee down is a great lean angle gauge.
I've become faster and smoother since mastering the all fathomable knee down.
(^ track riding, such riding is not encouraged on public roads)

Slower on the road, when "knee down at all costs" is involved, maybe... but have you considered the pie flavored; if you've seen me with a knee down its cos i'm going slow to show you some sparks? hence looks slower and less natural, etc etc

[jrandom]

if you've seen me with a knee down its cos i'm going slow to show you some sparks?

[Goblin]

Unlike some riders, we recognise that there are certain places to go fast, and for us it's not really on the road. I'll let loose up the Kaimais but tend to restrain myself everywhere else - you need to save that sort of crap for the track. Unfortunately, exercising restraint equates to being a "bad rider".

I'd probably liken my riding up the Kaimais to how I used to ride on the track. I've seen guys with their knee down so I can obviously go faster yet

Yes, you mentioned you like to let loose up the Kaimais. Has to be one of the more hazardous roads around tho, what with all the traffic, double lanes, heaps of trucks, buses spilling oil and diesel an cowshit all the time....but if that's where you liken your track riding to then all the best of luck.

Does anyone ever let loose down the Kaimais?

I think as long as you enjoy your riding then it doesn't really matter what others think does it?