Bloody Jap Whalers

[jonbuoy]

I don't care if it means I have double standards - I don't agree with killing Dogs, Cats, Horses, Whales, Dolphins, Turtles, Seals, fluffy rabbits or anything else that appeals to my human empathy for food.

[jrandom]

Whales are endangered and should therefore not be hunted.

Not true.

The International Union for the Conservation of Nature and Natural Resources lists both the Southern Right Whale and the Minke Whale as 'Lower Risk, Conservation Dependant'.

In other words, they are not endangered and can be hunted under appropriate management without risk of extinction.

[jrandom]

Nobody kills cows by firing RPG's at them...

... but you gotta admit, that'd be cool.

[Eurodave]

If your not supposed to eat animals.....how come they are made of meat????

Mmmmmmm, dead whale blubber sushi......fried unfertalised chicken embryos, roasted rotting animal flesh, YUMMY!!!

[MisterD]

... but you gotta admit, that'd be cool.

Ha ha. Yeah, pre-heat your frying pan and run about trying to catch bits of shredded bovine rain..

[Ewan Oozarmy]

Not true.

The International Union for the Conservation of Nature and Natural Resources lists both the Southern Right Whale and the Minke Whale as 'Lower Risk, Conservation Dependant'.

In other words, they are not endangered and can be hunted under appropriate management without risk of extinction.

I'm sure you're right, but the report I saw on Sky News said they were hunting Hump Backs which are endangered.

[Street Gerbil]

I reckon one of those GAU 30mm Rotary cannons as found on the A-10 mounted on the bow of the Greenpeace ship would make the sadistic Jap harpooners think twice......
Be all in the name of research, like how their ship's structure stands up to 30mm depleted uranium shells blasting through it....

I dig it
Greenpeace through superior firepower!

[jrandom]

I'm sure you're right, but the report I saw on Sky News said they were hunting Hump Backs which are endangered.

I'm not suggesting that the yellow bastards are doing it right. Apart from anything else, the 'research purposes' line the sneaky little cunts trot out is just face-saving stupidity. At least the Norwegians have the balls to front up about the fact that they're killing the critters commercially.

When countries who hunt whales are forced to operate outside of agreed international law, it becomes more likely that conservation issues will not be respected.

Far better to deal realistically with the situation via regulated, sustainable harvesting.

[MarkyMark]

Basically, the IWC and the Greenies have two seperate arguements:

1)We can't hunt whales because they're awesome and intelligent and cute and fluffy

2)We can't hunt whales because they're endangered

But in practice, these two arguments are entangled to such a degree there appears to be no distinction. There's a very good chance that a couple of species could be sustainably hunted, but the IWC has been hijacked by people who are against all whaling, so this is unlikely to be sanctioned. The Nips have no choice but to cave in to the sort of people who want to ban all meat eating, or go out on their own and break the rules. Until the IWC starts seriously investigating the sustainability and handing out appropriate quotas I find it hard to criticize our slanty-eyed neighbors to the north.


Except when they say they're targeting that white whale that Aussie tourists love so, that's just plain obnoxious.

[jrandom]

Except when they say they're targeting that white whale that Aussie tourists love so, that's just plain obnoxious.

I think someone may have mentioned the war.

[Hitcher]

You have no right to criticise the killing and eating of one particular species and not another.

I disagree. This planet's biodiversity is important. Farming animals for food is one thing. Wholesale frivolous slaughter of endangered species in the wild is something completely different. It's not as thought the Japanese are starving or lacking alternative sustainable sources of animal protein. Presumably you are also a supporter of the slaughter of elephants for ivory, rhinos for their horns and bears for their bile?

[Usarka]

I disagree. This planet's biodiversity is important. Farming animals for food is one thing. Wholesale frivolous slaughter of endangered species in the wild is something completely different. It's not as thought the Japanese are starving or lacking alternative sustainable sources of animal protein.

Most fish stocks in our oceans are dwindling too..... Plenty of fish in NZ restaurants and kitchens.

[Curious_AJ]

Different countries different customs. Aren't cows gods in India but Big Mac's in NZ???

If they eat whale then fine but stop hiding behind "research" and admit the real reason and decide on a quota the rest of the world is comfortable with and stick to it.
Until then GO Greepeace!

this is true... I don't condone whaling... ESPECIALLY in other waters... I don't like it in their waters.. but it's still better than going everywhere else and killing everyone else's whales!!

but with sharks .. people will happily kill them coz their ugly... I don't condone that either, they're intellegent, beautiful creatures who should be respected.. most of the shark species in the world are almost extinct SAVE THE SHARKS!!!

my argument is this... why do people think one type of endangered sea creature is better than another??

Yes I knew this topic would give some "different opinions".......

So, what you're saying is that even though I may never have killed an animal with my bare hands, I can't have an opinion on this?

hmmm yes "different oppinions... "

Not at all.

I just have a problem with hypocrisy, namely people who deplore the killing of animals with big sad brown eyes, then go home and eat steak and bacon.

You have no right to criticise the killing and eating of one particular species and not another.

I agree.. as i said before with the shark example... namely mako's, great whites and even nurse sharks

What's that got to do with anything? Nobody kills cows by firing RPG's at them, and they don't take several hours to bleed to death at the works either.

Serious point:
If the Japs, Faroese (sp?) or whoever want to kill whales for historic cultural reasons, it's fine by me as long they do it in their historic cultural way from a fucking rowing boat.

Not so serious point:
Ban Japs from our golf courses, that's about the only way I can think of getting them to take notice.

i agree...

I'm sure you're right, but the report I saw on Sky News said they were hunting Hump Backs which are endangered.

yeah, but does that make them hunting other whales okay???

Most fish stocks in our oceans are dwindling too..... Plenty of fish in NZ restaurants and kitchens.

exactly

[Hitcher]

Most fish stocks in our oceans are dwindling too..... Plenty of fish in NZ restaurants and kitchens.

Indeed. Even more reason to be cautious about numbers. If so-called marine biologists can't understand the dynamics of cod, snapper or orange roughy populations, then what credence should we give their opinions about the viability of whale populations?

[BIGBOSSMAN]

... but you gotta admit, that'd be cool.

What's that got to do with anything? Nobody kills cows by firing RPG's at them, and they don't take several hours to bleed to death at the works either.

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