Wellington says no to bikes on footpath.

[AnotherLeon]

I've emailed info@wcc.govt.nz and mayor@wcc.govt.nz (the mayor one was just a stab in the dark) with my concerns about the limited parking, and asked "where are we supposed to park now".

edit: oops, found out it should have been kerry.prendergast@wcc.govt.nz

[nudemetalz]

The latest on the bike-parking issue in Wellington.

Alrighties. I’ve just had a chat with some higher-ups to do with this dilemma.

Apparently, the ratio between cars to carparks is a lot worse than bikes to bike-parks, ie there is a shortage of carparks.
So, the WCC is not going to increase the bike-parks.
Also, with motorcycles parking on the footpath will result in ticketing, their reason being they believe it is becoming dangerous.
The example they give is Featherston St/Grey St behind ANZ.
They would not want a child either playing with a bike or having it fall on top of them.

Motorcycles are allowed to utilise carparks but they will have to pay like cars do.

Hopefully this gives you the lowdown on what the situation is.

[James Deuce]

Motorcycles are allowed to utilise carparks but they will have to pay like cars do.

Not until they change that bylaw are we allowed to use metered parking. $60 ticket for using them. I don't know about you, but any time an authority figure has said something in contravention of one of their own rules it's ended in tears.

[Deano]

They should have had a 'grace period', or amnesty of sorts where only warnings were issued until word had got out.

By not ticketing bikes on footpaths in the past, they were effectively condoning it.

Is 'promissary estoppel' (sp) relevant for anyone wanting to get off the ticket ?

[Dodger]

But the ones that were on the path outside ANZ at lunch time had tickets. 2 scooters and a bike.

Were the scooter's of the moped category?

[rwh]

Not until they change that bylaw are we allowed to use metered parking. $60 ticket for using them. I don't know about you, but any time an authority figure has said something in contravention of one of their own rules it's ended in tears.

Only multi-park meters (eg pay&display) - single meters are fine.

Richard

[Str8 Jacket]

They should have had a 'grace period', or amnesty of sorts where only warnings were issued until word had got out.

By not ticketing bikes on footpaths in the past, they were effectively condoning it.

Is 'promissary estoppel' (sp) relevant for anyone wanting to get off the ticket ?

I totally agree. Where were the warnings? I reckon there were none cause they damn well knew that they could make $xxxx's of dollars in one day. After having worked for MoJ for 5 years and having spoken to some of the guys I used to work with there is stuff all chance of getting of these tickets guy's. The law states that parking on a foot path is an offence and even though they have never ticketed you before they will just say that you were lucky.
I suggest you pay them BEFORE they go to court and you are stung with the court costs. Also disputing them may also well result in you having to pay the ticket PLUS court costs. Before anyone gets angry, I am just trying to help, I no longer work for MoJ.....

[James Deuce]

Only multi-park meters (eg pay&display) - single meters are fine.

Richard

Find me a single meter in Wellington.

They are a dying breed. Even the ones on Cuba St and Abel Smith St have gone.

[Grahameeboy]

I totally agree. Where were the warnings? I reckon there were none cause they damn well knew that they could make $xxxx's of dollars in one day. After having worked for MoJ for 5 years and having spoken to some of the guys I used to work with there is stuff all chance of getting of these tickets guy's. The law states that parking on a foot path is an offence and even though they have never ticketed you before they will just say that you were lucky.
I suggest you pay them BEFORE they go to court and you are stung with the court costs. Also disputing them may also well result in you having to pay the ticket PLUS court costs. Before anyone gets angry, I am just trying to help, I no longer work for MoJ.....

Well lets be honest, we know that parking on pavements is debatable so we cannot complain about lack of warnings.

Look at the other angle, motorcyclists got away with free parking for a while when they should have been ticketed, did we say thanks then?

[Trudes]

[B][U].
They would not want a child either playing with a bike or having it fall on top of them.

Ummm, What????
WTF are children doing playing with bikes on the footpaths? Oh that's right, I forgot, parents watching their children and making sure they don't tamper with other people's property is something that is often forgotten and left to everyone else to do. I agree with things being made safe for children, but come on, if this is their best excuse for bikes not being parked on footpaths, they can bite my bum, that's pathetic!!

[Str8 Jacket]

they can bite my bum

Can I please?....

[Trudes]

Can I please?....

Anytime babe, just be warned, I may like it!

[Drum]

.....Apparently, the ratio between cars to carparks is a lot worse than bikes to bike-parks, ie there is a shortage of carparks......

Yes, but car usage into the CBD is being discouraged while motorcycle/ scooter use is being encouraged.

Thanks for looking into it all the same.

[nudemetalz]

I agree with things being made safe for children, but come on, if this is their best excuse for bikes not being parked on footpaths, they can bite my bum, that's pathetic!!

Just remember, I'm only telling you peoples what I got told myself. I don't necessarily agree with it even though I work there.

And thanks Drum, I'm only trying to help.

Anyway, I also looked into what Jim said about bylaws and getting ticketed for using metered carparks.
I spoke to another person at WCC here and this is what I got.

A motorcyclist can park in a metered parking space. However they need to both pay for parking and comply with the appropriate time restrictions. However, the problem is that most parks are now controlled by pay and display machines requiring the driver to display a receipt in the vehicle. Obviously this is an issue for motor cyclists. However, if a ticket was issued and the rider was able to produce a valid receipt the ticket would be reconsidered. If a receipt isn't displayed it is a $40.00 offence.

This is the Council's position on it and not necessarily the Government's.

[Swoop]

I don't understand why this is only now being enforced.

Simply because it is the elected official mentality. Local elections have been held, so they can now go back to being c*nts. In a couple of years time they will be nice to us again...