Terrorism protests

[Magua]

Yeah I was thinking that as well, but can they still try someone for treason?

I think the treason law is being reviewed after the man who flung an axe into Helen Clark's electorate office was charged with it?

[avgas]

don't know why we have a terrorism law in NZ. Real terrorist wouldn't have given up so pathetically.

[RantyDave]

Re: PaulInNZ's suggestion of a "strategic regional something or other"

This is a good and wise suggestion...but it would have to be made pretty attractive to compete with receiving a benefit for doing F all, and getting cash growing and trading cannabis and other dodgy activities

And, just like that, Sels has it nailed. Legalize weed and give these fuckers something to do for a legitimate living.

Dave

[Finn]

Real terrorist wouldn't have given up so pathetically.

The Maori terrorists have a few flaws, the primary one being that over the years the warrior gene has been diluted with Colonel Sanders 11 herbs and spices rendering them unfit for battle.

[scumdog]

The Maori terrorists have a few flaws, the primary one being that over the years the warrior gene has been diluted with Colonel Sanders 11 herbs and spices rendering them unfit for battle.

And not to forget a great genetic propensity for in-fighting too.

[007XY]

thats a good point, I'll have to look into that.. could be a landmark case!!

[007XY]

Yeah I was thinking that as well, but can they still try someone for treason?

thats a good point, I'll have to look into that.. could be a landmark case..

[scumdog]

surely this doesnt look like a terrorist??

No, more like a sad, dreaming loser....

[MotoGirl]

surely this doesnt look like a terrorist??

Seriously. Those protestors all need to go on Queer Eye if they want to look like proper terrorists!

[Patrick]

these good for nothings don't represent the general Maori population, it's still a major embarrassment for NZ... and Maori people.

Which is what I am meaning. How many Maori in NZ???? 200 - 300 show up for the spiiting contest in Wellington..... a huge minority of that Maori population. The silent majority could protest against these idjits and not be called racist.

If they didn't want people to think they were terrorists, why did many of them dress in camouflage clothing and wear Palestinian-style headwear (think tea towels)? As for the salutes... give me a break!

They went through Levin the other day and by all accounts they were looked at with contempt. As for their actions while in Palmerston North - if it LOOKS like a terrorist, SMELLS like a terrorist and ACTS like a terrorist, then in my books it IS a bloody terrorist. Or pure scum, haven't made up my mind yet.

That is what a protest against them should also do... look upon these idjits with utter contempt and treat them the same....

When the Solicitor General reviewed all the applicable evidence, in context, he evidently came to the conclusion that there was not enough proof of intention.

No.. The CT Act itself was unworkable and a prosecution could not result..... He praised the Police concerns and response and from the evidence he saw, he had concerns too.

Those rounded up are facing firearms charges under the Arms Act only now as a result. The warrants were obtained under the Arms Act as well as other acts.

we haven't been told what those searches actually found.

You were lucky to get what has been presented so far. As a result, the charges may not get off the ground due to trial by media (although that doesn't stop the media from trashing the Police at every opportunity... some good press for a change is a blessing).

...and the solicitor general was quite clear in blaming the act for that state or affairs, and not the police or the evidence they presented.

Sure did. He was "seriously concerned" over what he saw.

I think the treason law is being reviewed after the man who flung an axe into Helen Clark's electorate office was charged with it?

Nope. Think they looked at it, but stuck to simple wilful damage only, Summary Offences Act, minor rats and mice charge.

[007XY]

They are in effect protesting against themselfs with the tactics they are using, and manner in which they are demonstrating .

At the risk of stating the obvious..This Tama iti is just a sh*t stirrer and not well liked among the Maori population.. more of an embarrassment!! A few years ago I was in a jetboat race on the Whakatane river.. Tama iti and a couple of hangers on were protesting us, as usual the local Maori were quite happy for the racing and put on a lunchtime BBQ at the top of the river selling sausages etc and made a few bucks..

[darkwolf]

My mum (born in Scotland) lived in Rhodesia and South Africa until she was 16 years old. She had to leave when Ian Smith basically handed power over to the Africans. Mum said 5 years ago that NZ will end up going the same way as Rhodesia. Men with guns running around and turning a peaceful, beautiful country into a war zone, with little or no resistance to their actions. And recently mentioned that this is where it starts. I don't know about you guys but I also happen to agree. I've never been so glad to be a Brit ( kinda don't know what else to say I am - Scottish blood/ English born). I really don't see NZ doing anything to prevent this division that has been growing for years. And what's worse is that I can see NZ's government "giving in" and "handing NZ back". Maybe it's about time that our politicians looked back in history and learned something from other countries mistakes.

Don't get me wrong - understand that the Maori's feel they got a raw deal, but they have to stop expecting reparations for it. What was done, has been done. What they get now in the ways of special treatment is wrong. Most of us would probably like to give back everything that we did wrong. And in return most of us would like to take back the things that we brought to this country - including things like colds etc. But it would be impossible to do. And people who use the almost catchphrase of "Give us back our muskets & blankets and we'll give you back the land" Or "We'll give you back your land but we'll take back our hospitals, WINZ etc" need to let it go. We CAN'T. We can't undo what happened, we can't make reparations for what happened, and we can't make a deal that allows for inflation to make it right. As a country we need to GET OVER IT.

Anyway rave over. I just get so pissed off with people who only look at it from one side. We tell the world "One nation, one land, one people" but we love nothing more than separating into pakeha/maori/import(like me - Britain's finest ).

[Meanie]

My mum (born in Scotland) lived in Rhodesia and South Africa until she was 16 years old. She had to leave when Ian Smith basically handed power over to the Africans. Mum said 5 years ago that NZ will end up going the same way as Rhodesia. Men with guns running around and turning a peaceful, beautiful country into a war zone, with little or no resistance to their actions. And recently mentioned that this is where it starts. I don't know about you guys but I also happen to agree. I've never been so glad to be a Brit ( kinda don't know what else to say I am - Scottish blood/ English born). I really don't see NZ doing anything to prevent this division that has been growing for years. And what's worse is that I can see NZ's government "giving in" and "handing NZ back". Maybe it's about time that our politicians looked back in history and learned something from other countries mistakes.

Don't get me wrong - understand that the Maori's feel they got a raw deal, but they have to stop expecting reparations for it. What was done, has been done. What they get now in the ways of special treatment is wrong. Most of us would probably like to give back everything that we did wrong. And in return most of us would like to take back the things that we brought to this country - including things like colds etc. But it would be impossible to do. And people who use the almost catchphrase of "Give us back our muskets & blankets and we'll give you back the land" Or "We'll give you back your land but we'll take back our hospitals, WINZ etc" need to let it go. We CAN'T. We can't undo what happened, we can't make reparations for what happened, and we can't make a deal that allows for inflation to make it right. As a country we need to GET OVER IT.

Anyway rave over. I just get so pissed off with people who only look at it from one side. We tell the world "One nation, one land, one people" but we love nothing more than separating into pakeha/maori/import(like me - Britain's finest ).

Well said mate
Like i said earlier the sooner we call ourselves Kiwis, irrespective of colouur and race the better off we will all be
Fuck the race issue, we all eat, root, shit and die so lets get on with enjoying what short life we have in this awesome country

[Finn]

Police "Terror" Evidence Online

I heard that an organisation calling themselves NZ Civil Liberties Union has posted an online copy of the 155 page Police file on the “terror” suspects as a pdf.

If you know how to "google" in NZ, it might be interesting. I heard the text messages are quite funny.

[Ixion]

Bad Finn. Bad bad bad. If there were such an organisation as the "New Zealand Civil Liberties Union" (don't abbreviate, it causes confusion), and if such an org anisation had posted such a document it would be most improper and a breach of all sorts of laws. Jolly good thing you didn't post a link to the org.

I'm quite sure that no-one hear wants to know anything about this. No indeed. And to use Google to try to find this "New Zealand Civil Liberties Union" would be very wrong, and probably illegal. The Thought Police will be calling on you soon, I think. Don't do this, children.