Wellington says no to bikes on footpath.

[Sanx]

On a slightly different note, it occurs to me that the by-law about bikes and pay and display areas may have a subtle loophole in it, but you would need to get a lawyer type to confirm this (I'm only an engineer!).
The by-law states:
18.6.5 No person shall park a motorcycle in any parking meter area controlled by a multiple parking meter, other than in any part specifically set aside for motorcycles.

Note that it says '.. any parking meter area controlled by a multiple parking meter..'.
My point here is that if there is not a 'part specifically set aside for motorcycles' in the area controlled by a particular pay-and-display meter, this rule would not apply.
To put it another way, could it be inferred that you can park on pay-and-display carparks if there is no directly associated area set aside for motorcycles? You might have to have a pay-and-display chit though.
Might be interesting to test this!

Nice try, but I don't think it would fly. IANAL, however the use of the word 'any' implies that there may or may not be a dedicated motorcycle area. Had they said 'other than in the part specifically set aside for motorcycles.', I think you might have had a good point. There's also another possibility too: 'controlled by a multiple parking meter'. The indefinite article implies a sole multiple parking meter. Just one. As the meters themselves (in Auckland, anyway) state that if a particular meter is out of order, then go to the next one, it can be argued that most areas are controlled by multiple multiple parking meters, and therefore are not covered by this particular by-law.

On the other hand, I could be talking absolute tripe, so don't blame me if you try this in court and lose.

[James Deuce]

I would suggest that the part of 18.6.5 that refers to 'part specifically set aside for motorcycles' indicates that there will be pay and display parking for motorcycles at some point, or that they were planning motorcycle pay & display at the time the bylaw was written. I don't think it is a loophole at all.

[Dodger]

Letter was waiting for me when I got home. In all their wisdom they have decided to cancel my ticket.

Congrats,
Thats $40 less they will get (mind you wasn't your ticket stuffed up so $60?)

[AnotherLeon]

I got this as a reply from a Kim, on behalf of a Kerry.

Dear Leon

Thank you for your email of 21 November 2007 regarding motorcycles and mopeds parking on footpaths within the Central Business District.


I appreciate your concern that Parkwise has recently started ticketing motorcycles and scooters illegally parked on the footpath. In hindsight, we should have advised affected parties before the change in our enforcement and those responsible have been spoken to in that regard. But at the same time parking on the footpath is illegal and Parkwise will continue to ticket offending vehicles especially where they are either obstructing pedestrians or presenting a safety hazard to pedestrians.

Over the next few months Council Staff will undertake a review of motorcycle parking in the city and this will take into account the ratio of on-street car parks to motorcycle parks, as well as the relative merits of all transport options.

As I’m sure you are aware, we have intense competing demands on our street space, particularly in the CBD. We also want to encourage the use of public transport options as part of our Parking Policy.

None of this solves your parking dilemma. You could consider use of the Tournament Parking Building next to the Duxton Hotel on Wakefield Street. They provide motorcycle/moped parking in a secure all-weather location at no cost. You could also approach other private providers closer to your workplace to discuss if they provide motorcycle/moped parking.

If you have any further questions, please don’t hesitate to contact either Holden Hohaia, Support Manager, direct on 383-4428 or holden.hohaia@wcc.govt.nz or Colleen Thessman, Parking Services Manager, direct on 803-8138 or colleen.thessman@wcc.govt.nz.

Yours sincerely



Kerry Prendergast

MAYOR

[Kendog]

I got this as a reply from a Kim, on behalf of a Kerry.

Isn't that a nice answer. Wonder what will come of the 'review'.

[James Deuce]

Isn't that a nice answer. Wonder what will come of the 'review'.

WCC Motorcycle Parking Review, April 2008

"Stop riding motorcycles as they are dangerous.

Get the bus.

All motorcycle parking in Wellington will be removed.

You are hoons and motorcycling is dangerous.

Any motorcycles seen within the WCC catchment will receive a $3000 fine.

Get the bus you hoons."

[Kendog]

WCC Motorcycle Parking Review, April 2008

"Stop riding motorcycles as they are dangerous.

Get the bus.

All motorcycle parking in Wellington will be removed.

You are hoons and motorcycling is dangerous.

Any motorcycles seen within the WCC catchment will receive a $3000 fine.

Get the bus you hoons."

I'm ok then, I bus to work already

[James Deuce]

It takes me 1hr 45 minutes to get the bus and train to work. I live 17kms away. I have to get on the first bus at 6:50am.

If I use public transport to get home I have to be at Petone station by 6:10pm, or there is no bus until the next morning, so I have a 5.5km walk up some of the steepest hills in the Hutt. It costs me more using concession fares to travel on Public transport for a year than I spent to buy the Katana and get it on the road.

They can get fucked.

[PirateJafa]

What's the problem?

Get some hi-viz vests, orange cones and yellow paint. Apply a little bit of elbow grease and soon you'll have bike parks in handy little places all over town.

[Drum]

.....They can get fucked.

...Amen...

[pzkpfw]

I always wondered what "holy fuck" meant...

[zukifan101]

hey my names david i just registed on "kiwibiker" and im geting realy pissed off about leaving my bike out of the way on the footpath as to make room for cars and geting ticketed for it iv racked up 80 bucks worth of fines and im realy sick of it iv talked to parking nazis and theyv told me to park on the footpath what can we do about it this bikers in wellington cant just stand back and let this keep going on how can bikers live in a city with cars if they cant park on the footpath its impossible.im going to court over my fines and im trying bloody hard to get off them.

[Hawkeye]

hey my names david i just registed on "kiwibiker" and im geting realy pissed off about leaving my bike out of the way on the footpath as to make room for cars and geting ticketed for it iv racked up 80 bucks worth of fines and im realy sick of it iv talked to parking nazis and theyv told me to park on the footpath what can we do about it this bikers in wellington cant just stand back and let this keep going on how can bikers live in a city with cars if they cant park on the footpath its impossible.im going to court over my fines and im trying bloody hard to get off them.

Where is Hitcher when you need him?.....

[Drum]

Gidday Zukifan, and welcome to the site.

Yep, it sucks that they are clamping down on us for parking on the footpath. From our perspective there aren't enough bike parks. From the Council's perspective there are plenty bike parks, and the footpath is for pedestrians.

There doesn't seem to have been enough outrage from ticketed bikers to make the effort of protesting. God knows the car driving and footpath using public won't be on our side.

By the way, nice of you to make a donation. I've also been forced to make a contribution.

[Fatjim]

hey my names david i just registed on "kiwibiker" and im geting realy pissed off about leaving my bike out of the way on the footpath as to make room for cars and geting ticketed for it iv racked up 80 bucks worth of fines and im realy sick of it iv talked to parking nazis and theyv told me to park on the footpath what can we do about it this bikers in wellington cant just stand back and let this keep going on how can bikers live in a city with cars if they cant park on the footpath its impossible.im going to court over my fines and im trying bloody hard to get off them.

Take a breath man.