PrePay SUCKS! Name and shame the gas stations.

[Grahameeboy]

go away you boring person; this thread is about prepay

if you don't have some prepay content; spare us your presence

Sorry, who did you say was boring................now I know your answer so spare us your pretence

[Waylander]

go away you boring person; this thread is about prepay

if you don't have some prepay content; spare us your presence

Being the asshole that I am, this just makes me want to remain in this thread longer.

[don rocard]

By having pumps on prepay the inference is there that I could run off with out paying.And yes he is a bloody Hindu.

[Grahameeboy]

Being the asshole that I am, this just makes me want to remain in this thread longer.

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[Grahameeboy]

By having pumps on prepay the inference is there that I could run off with out paying.And yes he is a bloody Hindu.

So having pre-pay phones must be the same then..............and back to my question, how do you know he is a Hindu.

I guess that speed signs are an inference that you may speed?

Where does it end?

[Wolf]

The service station at the Greenwood St/Killarney Road roundabout is pretty much perpetually on prepay but no matter who is on duty they unlock the pump for me - don't know about other bikers.

I also have no problems wearing my helmet into the shop - even before I got the rather distinctive wolf decals on it.

Not yet encountered a service station where me wearing my helmet is a problem. I just bowl in, pay for the petrol and/or anything else I need, pull off a glove so I can extract card or cash and operate the buttons on the EFT-POS machine if I need to, then leave.

[swbarnett]

So having pre-pay phones must be the same then..............and back to my question, how do you know he is a Hindu.

I guess that speed signs are an inference that you may speed?

Where does it end?

It's all about context. A pre-pay phone is a way for you to control your own spending. You can post-pay with the same company if you choose. At a pre-pay petrol station you don't have this choice, hence the assumption that you are a petrol theif until proven otherwise (something that is impossible when trust is removed).

And, yes, a speed sign infers that anyone even 1km/h over is exhibiting a callous disregard for safety (Somehting that is blatantly wrong but that's another argument with number of threads already dedicated to it).

[discotex]

It's all about context. A pre-pay phone is a way for you to control your own spending. You can post-pay with the same company if you choose.

Only if your credit rating is good enough.

Mobile pre-pay wasn't a feature to control your spending it was a way to prevent bad debt (i.e. theft).

[Toaster]

While I understand your frustration, there is a common theme here. All these stations are in lower socioeconomic areas full of thieving scum. Gas stations do not provide a community service. They are a business trying to make a buck in a very difficult market made even more difficult by a Government that not only hates business (much like yourself), but goes out of their way to make it difficult for them.

Don't like it? Go somewhere else.

Well said Finn. I'd buy you a beer for that one if I could.

[Sollyboy]

That is not correct. There is no legal requirement for any seller to give change. Legally, if you do not have the right money that is your problem. And if you have contracted (albeit against your will ) to buy $20 of petrol, then find that you cannot fit it all into your tank the seller is under no legal obligation to make any refund.

It is very common for pre-pay servos to refuse to refund any over payment or at least to argue hard about it. Usually suggesting that you should "buy something else" to "use up" the excess. I have pumped $3 odd of petrol into the windscreen wash water container on the forecourt when it was apparent I was not going to get the balance of my $20 pre pay back.

So spill the excess on the forcourt , or fill their rubish bin

[Grahameeboy]

It's all about context. A pre-pay phone is a way for you to control your own spending. You can post-pay with the same company if you choose. At a pre-pay petrol station you don't have this choice, hence the assumption that you are a petrol theif until proven otherwise (something that is impossible when trust is removed).

And, yes, a speed sign infers that anyone even 1km/h over is exhibiting a callous disregard for safety (Somehting that is blatantly wrong but that's another argument with number of threads already dedicated to it).

I was just being tongue in cheek, however, enough cars drive off without paying so I guess with motorbikes it is impossible to see a face or the rego so why shouldn't they be more cautious with bikers

[Wolf]

Finally had a chance to read through the whole thread.

When the petrol station at the Greenwood/Killarney roundabout first went to prepay I was pissed off as I tend - as has been pointed out by others - to fill the tank so I know how much distance I'm likely to get (approximately, as there is indeed great variance depending on whether I've been primarily riding in town or out on the open road).

I stopped going there for a while but one day I was on reserve and had no choice but go there. I started to head indoors to prepay but the attendant waved me back to the bike as he had already unlocked the pump. So I filled up, went inside (without removing my helmet - I refuse to) and paid the correct amount for the fuel I needed and thanked the bloke.

It's now gone back to being my regular refueling point and usually the only time I prepay anything is if I'm not sure I have enough money in my account to cover it - like around that time of the month when the bank rapes your account and puts you in overdraft to get their fees, despite you not having an overdraft facility (so they can then screw you for an "Unarranged Overdraft" fee at the end of the following month...)

As I generally refuel when my trip-meter reckons I might be getting close to going on reserve, I usually have enough fuel to make it to any other service station in town so I would have no qualms about saying "fuck your prepay policy, I'll fill my tank elsewhere" and riding away if I rolled into a fuel station where they refused to unlock the pump.

In the car it's not so much of a hassle as I generally only ever put dollar values in unless we're heading off for the weekend, when we do fill up before we leave. Actually chose to prepay today as we were in a hurry so I raced in, handed a $20 note to the very same guy who regularly unlocks the pump for my bike, said "20 dollars of 91 on 14" and left to fuel the car so we could get under way quickly.

If I'd been on the bike, though, I would have waited at the pump for him to unlock it and filled it up.

Best answer when you try to fill up, the pump is locked and the mealy-mouthed little jobsworth in the hutch says "you have to prepay" in a condescending voice: "No I fucking don't" - *hangs up the nozzle, starts bike and heads off for the competition up the road.*

Now that I have been informed that they are under no obligation to give change if you are forced by their silly policy to over-estimate the price in order to fill your tank, I will be even more vehement about telling those who insist on prepay to shove their so-called-service-station up their arse.

Already had a few cause to say "what do you mean you don't sell automotive light bulbs?" (or windscreen wipers and assorted other emergency automobile-related items) "What are you, a service station or a supermarket? I can buy bloody condoms here but not vehicle parts."

And back on the helmet issue, as some people have noted which petrol stations don't mind them not removing their helmets: fair enough, you remove your helmet when entering a bank - it is reassuring for the staff to be able to see the face of the customers as most of the times when a person enters a bank with face obscured it is a hold-up.

However, most of the times when a person enters a petrol station with face obscured, it is a customer wearing a motorcycle helmet who desires to pay for fuel and maybe impulse buy some of the shit they have on sale. That is the nature of petrol stations - bikers go there to fuel up.

If you can't cope with seeing helmeted figures entering the shop, you shouldn't be working in a service station.

I wear glasses, so taking off my helmet involves removing my glasses through the opening and then removing my helmet. I then have to put my helmet on again and carefully push my glasses back through the opening, locating my ears by feel. That's a lot of fucking around when all you want to do is put some petrol in your tank, hand the attendant some money, get some change and get back on the road.

I am mindful that some paranoid delusionals might think I mean them harm so I strive to convey, with body language and purpose of movement, that I am there on lawful business - go to fridge, get V bottles, progress to counter, fishing wallet from pocket - rather than appear to be loitering around looking for an opportunity to pull a weapon and make off with the contents of the register.

[Max Preload]

So I filled up, went inside (without removing my helmet - I refuse to)....

I wear glasses, so taking off my helmet involves removing my glasses through the opening and then removing my helmet. I then have to put my helmet on again and carefully push my glasses back through the opening, locating my ears by feel. That's a lot of fucking around when all you want to do is put some petrol in your tank, hand the attendant some money, get some change and get back on the road.

Me too - for similar reasons - sometimes sunglasses and always earplugs. *ahem*

[Gubb]

And back on the helmet issue, as some people have noted which petrol stations don't mind them not removing their helmets: fair enough, you remove your helmet when entering a bank - it is reassuring for the staff to be able to see the face of the customers as most of the times when a person enters a bank with face obscured it is a hold-up.

However, most of the times when a person enters a petrol station with face obscured, it is a customer wearing a motorcycle helmet who desires to pay for fuel and maybe impulse buy some of the shit they have on sale. That is the nature of petrol stations - bikers go there to fuel up.

If you can't cope with seeing helmeted figures entering the shop, you shouldn't be working in a service station.

Bikers also use banks, and have the common courtesy to remove their helmets there. After having a gun stuck in my face on two separate occasions, one of whom was wearing a helmet, it still nerves me a little when people walk into the store with helmets on, hoddies up. Or have guns waving around.

[Tank]

Bikers also use banks, and have the common courtesy to remove their helmets there. After having a gun stuck in my face on two separate occasions, one of whom was wearing a helmet, it still nerves me a little when people walk into the store with helmets on, hoddies up. Or have guns waving around.

gee you're as bad as the service stations (using some posters logic in this thread). Someone comes in high on P wearing a helmet and darkened visor waiving a gun around and you ASSUME that hes there to rob you.

You bastard !

Im going to get III to make a thread suggesting that we all take our banking elsewhere.