Going to Court!!!

**zukifan101** · 5th December 2007, 09:45

gidday guys anyone who gets a ticket for parking on the footpath in wellington should go straight to court i am.if we clog up the court system theyl have no choice but to relax those laws get back to me people who are interested

**owner** · 5th December 2007, 09:47

give em hell it should be allowded

**vifferman** · 5th December 2007, 09:55

If, in the unlikely event you lose, you realise you'll have to pay court costs of around $130?

**skelstar** · 5th December 2007, 10:02

What are you going to say if you stand up in court? Regardless of how many bike parks there are in town blah blah, the law still states that its illegal doesn't it? Good on you for wanting to change things but it could be expensive.

**yod** · 5th December 2007, 10:07

ummm

FOOTpath ???

just my 2c

**Blackbird** · 5th December 2007, 10:09

I was in Melbourne the week before last and there were bikes parked neatly everywhere on the pavements. I presume the City Fathers have sanctioned this and if so, they deserve a big round of praise for an enlightened view.

**vifferman** · 5th December 2007, 10:17

Originally Posted by Blackbird

I was in Melbourne the week before last and there were bikes parked neatly everywhere on the pavements. I presume the City Fathers have sanctioned this and if so, they deserve a big round of praise for an enlightened view.

Yes.
But a few years ago, they decided to withdraw the sanction, so the MelbourneBikers girded their collective loins, and started a campaign to park instead in central city carparks early each morning.

The problem is, cities are run by bureaucrats, who forget a couple of things:
- The city runs more betterer if pragmatism and commonsense are more important than bureaucracy
- They are civil servants, not the rulers of the city, and their powers are imparted by their employers, the ratepayers.

**Ocean1** · 5th December 2007, 10:35

Originally Posted by vifferman

They are civil servants, not the rulers of the city, and their powers are imparted by their employers, the ratepayers.

A vast majority of whom would rather motorcicles didn't exist, let alone actually clutter up the footpaths.

Sorry dude, the biggest voting block wins, unless you can afford to spend WAY too much time making as much noise as the blue-hair brigade.

**Tank** · 5th December 2007, 11:26

Originally Posted by zukifan101

gidday guys anyone who gets a ticket for parking on the footpath in wellington should go straight to court i am.if we clog up the court system theyl have no choice but to relax those laws get back to me people who are interested

ummm - why not come back AFTER you have been to court and tell us how you get on before recommending it to everybody.

oh - and as for clogging up the courts leaving them with no choice to change the rules - that dosnt actually work.

Hope that it works out for you!

C

**car** · 5th December 2007, 12:50

Originally Posted by vifferman

Yes.
But a few years ago, they decided to withdraw the sanction, so the MelbourneBikers girded their collective loins, and started a campaign to park instead in central city carparks early each morning.

Heh. I like. Didn't someone local to here (Jim2, was it you?) already point us to the rule that says we're not allowed to park in P&D car bays, though? In which case, the only legal option is to all turn up early and, um, fight for the bike bays...

That, and we can always vote for the other lizard.

My employer has the foresight to provide us with dedicate MC parking, which we, the motorcycling employees, seem to be spreading out to occupy evenly, so that people don't get the impression that "MC only" means "emergency overflow car parking for important people."

**EJK** · 5th December 2007, 12:53

So you are going to the court because you parked on the footpath?

O....K.....

**Taine** · 5th December 2007, 12:56

It's a hard town down there by the sounds of it....but hey pretty hard to fight the courts, I always park on the footpath only because of cage drivers trying to park an hitting bikes....guess 1 day they will also give me a ticket but better than bike getting knocked over or worse driven over....

**spudchucka** · 5th December 2007, 12:58

Originally Posted by vifferman

If, in the unlikely event you lose, you realise you'll have to pay court costs of around $130?

Yeah but think how cool he'll feel knowing he clogged up the court system for a further five minutes.

**Oakie** · 5th December 2007, 13:25

How about making a point very legally and showing the benefit of scooters being able to park on the footpath? Pick a popular and prominant parking street up there and get a whole lot of scooters to get there early in the morning; so early that you can have a whole lot of scooters taking up one car park per scooter along a whole block. You'd need to arrange meter feeding which may cost a bit and you'd have to do it a few times so it's seen as more than just a publicity stunt but if you get enough motorists complaining and get a bit of media publicity you may just find a relaxing in attitudes. You may even get a few additional scooter parking areas. Mobilise!

**Ocean1** · 5th December 2007, 13:43

Originally Posted by Oakie

How about making a point very legally and showing the benefit of scooters being able to park on the footpath? Pick a popular and prominant parking street up there and get a whole lot of scooters to get there early in the morning; so early that you can have a whole lot of scooters taking up one car park per scooter along a whole block. You'd need to arrange meter feeding which may cost a bit and you'd have to do it a few times so it's seen as more than just a publicity stunt but if you get enough motorists complaining and get a bit of media publicity you may just find a relaxing in attitudes. You may even get a few additional scooter parking areas. Mobilise!

Not an option in most areas.

Originally Posted by car

we're not allowed to park in P&D car bays,