Na mate nothing wrong with the tar, get used to it... there is however a lot of gravel towards the sumit... that section of rd was in good nick.Originally Posted by who_me_33
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Na mate nothing wrong with the tar, get used to it... there is however a lot of gravel towards the sumit... that section of rd was in good nick.
cheers DD
(Definately Dodgy)
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+1 - its a road to be enjoyed for what it is, i.e. a road offering magnificent views of the Canterbury Plains and Banks Peninsula, nothing more in IMHO
I know I've said nothing on this thread and really after 68 pages of posts there's still nothing to get too excited about and nothing to entice me a Wednesday night ride. That is because of first hand reports and the posts in this thread, I may sooner rather than later, be helping someone pulling their bike out of ditch - that is not me. I'm not a perfect rider but I must be doing something right as I'm still here 26 years later...
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Tell that to my GSXR that stepped out on me in 2nd gear at about 100km/h over the Akaroa hill.
Homo Sapiens Vulgaris
Good thing then, that some of the other experienced people on-site are willing to show up and give some pointers to us newbies. Considering the lack of rider training programs this is one of the few ways we can learn in other ways than the hard way.
But I can't blame you for not wanting to get involved when people bins it, I never have been and hope I never will. I would, however, be rather affected if someone I had met - and noted rode dangerously but hadn't pointed it out to - was to make the headlines.
And of course you're not a perfect rider - noone is. I do however hope that there will be someone around to help you drag the ducati out if you should ever be so unlucky...
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addicted to racing
Yeah, I just really wanted to go over Evans. That was actually my favourite part of the whole ride.I had a good evening. Nice fun ride on the way home too - cheers Phoenix
As for summit rd, yes it's narrow and bumpy, but Lemans is right. If you ride the easy roads al the time you're not going to learn any thing. It's not a road to race on. That doesn't mean you can't enjoy it. I didn't exactly enjoy it last night though. I hit a nice gravel patch at the start which shifted my rear around a bit. That threw me off for a while and it took me a bit to get back in the rhythm . Shit happens
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Silly me, I didn't realise it was my responsibility to train every new rider. Just goes to show you never know everything.
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when...and I say when....I'm an old cobber, riding for hundreds of years, I will be going on these rides for the reasons mr sensible has pointed out.
I understand what it must be like for you more experienced riders not wanting to have us along, but surely someone taught you? pulled you or your mate out of a ditch? watched in horror? gave you a flick around the ear, or even seen a thing or 2.
and dont think this is some sort of sick bravado, I dont want to do it, but i'll do it because someone did it for me, and those who I do it for will do it for someone else, and a large chunk of the reason I'll have the oppotunity to do this is as stated someone once did it for me.
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Fuk you did not even offer to tarin me? Mind you, you did help confirm that I needed noise, and that it should not be to offensive like yours!!!!!Silly me, I didn't realise it was my responsibility to train every new rider. Just goes to show you never know everything.
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IMHO having some one show you how its done is not the answer, you have to work out for yourself what your comfortable with and what your not, what you can do and what you can't do. If you can't do something why not? What can you do to find out?
Simply following someone else is going to teach you fuck all - the lines they pick are what works for them. That is to say they may not work for you, in fact they may get in to something you can not deal with. What works for you?
I would recommend this book: http://www.amazon.com/Sport-Riding-T.../dp/1893618072 but at the end of the day you need to be able to analyse your own riding.
How do you want to ride?
Una Storia Italiana
big differance between the thour and a 150 tho...
cheers DD
(Definately Dodgy)
Moped rider
hey guys i put some photo's up of the scene and my bike if ur interested, was kinda eerie goin back there, haha, could still see the oil and blood stains on the road, alot of the scrap marks had washed away in the rain the other night tho which was a bit dissappointing,
http://www.bebo.com/PhotoAlbum.jsp?M...mId=6251447238
It's not speed that kills, it's the idiot in control
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further proof of my point.
if you didn't learn by example then the concept of it will seem impossible and stupid to you, but by your own opinion this shouldn't be an incorrect way to learn when there is no clearly defined way to ride.
myself I learn by example then modify it logically to suit myself then apply it in as controlled condition as I can get and find my own style.
I usually learn by explorative learning, asking "what happens if I do this?" it works for photoshop, maya, 3d studio max and after effects, but i wouldn't dare apply it to motorcycling, someone else might though and have great success with it.
sometimes companionship will allow you to learn, not because you're learning from the more experienced rider, but simply because they're there you'll just learn...
my intention would be to teach like dangerous but without the grumpy old man syndrome.
Homo Sapiens Vulgaris
I didn't at any time imply it was yours - or indeed anyones - responsibility. I just said that we are grateful that there are some who are willing to offer a perspective achieved through years of experience riding on the road.Silly me, I didn't realise it was my responsibility to train every new rider. Just goes to show you never know everything.
But you are of course right - we have to learn it for ourselves. However, we might learn faster if we are given constructive feedback. I've found that the pointers I've received from experienced riders may not have sunk in right then and there but has helped to encourage defensive riding until it did indeed sink in a week or three later.
I hope you won't take this the wrong way - but I believe that learning on the road today is quite different from 26 years ago. The traffic density is higher, the bikes are faster and there's more road rage going round.
It is preferential to refrain from the utilisation of grandiose verbiage in the circumstance that your intellectualisation can be expressed using comparatively simplistic lexicological entities. (...such as the word fuck.)
Remember your humanity, and forget the rest. - Joseph Rotblat
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argh, it's a shame to see you and your bike like that dude, I admired that bike...but not your knee...although I'm sure it's a fine knee....but not at the moment...
Homo Sapiens Vulgaris
That'll be a really really nice scar laterScars >> tatoos!
And the bike doesn't look that bad! A bit of ducttape and she'll be right mate.
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Remember your humanity, and forget the rest. - Joseph Rotblat
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