One of the guys who was involved in the crash on the buller road. Should be an interesting take on the whole thing
Hardcore Biker
One of the guys who was involved in the crash on the buller road. Should be an interesting take on the whole thing
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A good article.
I wonder who was sending emails to the programme before the article had ended?
Interesting pelvic scaffolding.
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ArseBiscuit
I liked the cop, especially how he argued that it wasn't actually a pursuit because the definition of a pursuit means the motorist has to be aware that they are being followed by a police officer. Therefore infering that the policies on pursuit do not need reviewing.
Semantics are great. Almost as great as sarcasm.
Forum whore
Seems to me it would be a simple exercise to set up a car parked in exactly the spot the police car was and see whether a motorcycle travelling at 90-95kph would be able to stop once the car became visible. My guess would be that it could.
Yarrrrr
I wonder what the policy on U Turns is?
Probably the same as for all of us. Without looking at the Road Code, I'd imagine it'd be something like:
100m clear visibility - It seemed to be a tree lined narrow windy rural road, hard to see around corners?
No traffic - Well the driver knew bikes were on the road, one just passed by before the U Turn. I'd bet my left testicle that the cop had seen other bikes on the road beforehand too.
Can carry out U Turn in the space available - Fail. The car looked to be doing a 3 point turn to me, perhaps preparing to reverse back into the lane?
As for saying to the biker lying in agony on the road with a shattered pelvis, thumb missing as so on "you were speeding"... lame.
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Originally Posted by katman
Would only work if the "test rider" didn't know that there would be a gimp parked in the middle of the road just around the corner.
Would be a good test that most of us should trial though.
Forum whore
Not really - reaction time should be less than 1 second. If a braking marker was placed a few metres past the point where the car becomes visible I think it would prove to be a very telling test.
Hardcore Biker
That might be a valid test If the Cop car had been "parked" in the position it ended up in the crash photos. That's not the case though is it.
They didn't get to enjoy an early warning sight of it "parked" on their side of the road. because it wasn't in that position yet. It was tucked into the other side of the hill obscured from their approaching line of sight and it swung out as they neared.
Take a look at the photos. The car continued forward about 1.5m to 2.0m AFTER the moment of impact. The two bikes and bike debris don't line up with the two dents in the car. Why, because the car was still in motion forward.
Just how good are your reaction times and brakes?
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ArseBiscuit
Well said MD. The cop would not have been stationary, he was doing a u-turn (or a multiple point turn).
By the time the riders saw the car until they hit it, a number of seconds would have elapsed.
What cop would do a turn to "pursue" a speeder, stopping for a while in the middle of the turn on a corner? None, unless they're incompetent.
Great 'story", it showed bikers as being normal human beings with with families and jobs just like every one else.
Scotsman on a German
Eh? Aren't we supposed to be normal people with families and jobs like everyone else then?
How are we supposed to fund our bike habits without Jobs? Only Finn and DMNTD can do that.
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That cop lost all credibility as soon as that bullshit started spouting.
The pursuit started the instant the cop decided to change his direction of travel so that he could extract some revenue from the first biker. The fact the careless asshole nearly killed two other people should be grounds for instant dismissal and a criminal prosecution for dangerous driving causing injury. The state of mind of the pursued victim is irrelevant: the pursuer defines the state of being pursued, not whether the poor fucker in the front knows about it.
Think about an animal hunting in the wild. It is pursuing its dinner even though the dinner is unaware.. and becomes aware only when the teeth go into its throat. Just because the dinner had no clue, doesnt mean a pursuit wasnt happening!! Fucksakes, that arsehole weasel words really got my goat!
Watch now, as they spin it to blame the victim. And probably charge them with something like "failing to stop". GRRRRRRRRRR.
I don't often get angry watching TV, but tonight I did.
I can't believe how reasonable the guy in the hospital bed was being. Has anyone taken up a collection or whatever for them? I would like to contribute something tangible!
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Chocolate Coated
most sensible comment i have heard yet.
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Last of a dying breed
Not much more to add here. Apart from the cops comment to Brent when he was lying there after the crash: "You were speeding". Amazing ability. He was not able to do a U-turn without a 3 point turn, but he was able to see that the bikes were speeding!! Makes you wonder what he was doing??
Here the link to the video: http://www.tv3.co.nz/Video/Motorcycl...ID=42128#video
yes Sir!
thats more room then i had when i found a car reversing up the road.
i stopped easily.
the bike behind me didnt.
its really interesting that he has since deleted his account with kb and left his job at a well known bike shop
Last of a dying breed
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