Cop U-turn accident victim on Campbell tonight (19 December)

[spudchucka]

True. But in your case, your boss would no doubt be standing up for you in an investigation by some third party. In this case the cops are standing up for, and defending , their own. One can understand that. But, it is those same cops who are investigating the crash, and will assign culpability for it. There is no independent investigation. The police are judge and jury in their own case. And ther bikers have no-one at all to speak up for them. They will be hung out to dry by the investigators, who are busy defending their own.

You're almost cynical enough to be a cop!

[jim.cox]

You're almost cynical enough to be a cop!

Actually Spud it probably takes years to become as bitter as you appear to be

I think Ixion's attitude is probably one very close to that of the average kiwi

[more_fasterer]

So, judging by the above post the cop will dust his hands off, shrug his shoulders and jump into another (unbent) car and carry on his merry way without hinderance or penalty?

Shee-it, I want to be a cop if that's the case!!

Need some better work stories?

[Squiggles]

So, judging by the above post the cop will dust his hands off, shrug his shoulders and jump into another (unbent) car and carry on his merry way without hinderance or penalty?

Wasnt he back on the roads a couple of days later? the second part we shall just have to wait and see

[Squiggles]

Hate the way the officer answered the questions, we dont want to hear a politicians walk around answer (criticize the spelling instead of answering the question). Surely there are guidelines for engaging in potential "pursuits" (and if not, well there still are for everyone when it comes to pulling U-turns). The guy's not calling for your head, just an apology and an assurance no-one else will suffer the same fate

[mstriumph]

..............Just how good are your reaction times and brakes?

not good enough to stake my life on in this situation methinks ....

[spudchucka]

Actually Spud it probably takes years to become as bitter as you appear to be

Not really, I just have a lot of natural ability.

I think Ixion's attitude is probably one very close to that of the average kiwi

Not the average kiwis that I know. But then again maybe I'm just moving in above average circles!

[Winston001]

True. But in your case, your boss would no doubt be standing up for you in an investigation by some third party. In this case the cops are standing up for, and defending , their own. One can understand that. But, it is those same cops who are investigating the crash, and will assign culpability for it. There is no independent investigation. The police are judge and jury in their own case. And the bikers have no-one at all to speak up for them. They will be hung out to dry by the investigators, who are busy defending their own.

Understandable but not accurate. An employer who is considering dismissal must make only neutral comments until all fair procedures are dealt with. Applies just as much with an employed police officer as to anyone else.

So far as the police investigating their own is concerned, they are quite vigorous and possibly tougher on one of their own than on a member of the public. That is because the police need to be seen as unbiased and the Riccard/Shipton etc prosecutions are the evidence of this policy.

[spudchucka]

C'mon Winston, they'll never believe that.

[jim.cox]

So far as the police investigating their own is concerned, they are quite vigorous and possibly tougher on one of their own than on a member of the public. That is because the police need to be seen as unbiased and the Riccard/Shipton etc prosecutions are the evidence of this policy.

Its going to take more than one example to rebuild all the confidence lost in the last twenty or thirty years.

The police are no longer seen as angels the way they once were, or as indeed they wish to be. Their halos have slipped and its going to take a lot of work to fix that.

[spudchucka]

Its going to take more than one example to rebuild all the confidence lost in the last twenty or thirty years.

There are heaps of examples. You just don't hear of them because they aren't considered news worthy.

[Swoop]

The police are judge and jury in their own case.

Very close to being the executioner, as well, in this case...

[MSTRS:Me]

So far as the police investigating their own is concerned, they are quite vigorous and possibly tougher on one of their own than on a member of the public. That is because the police need to be seen as unbiased and the Riccard/Shipton etc prosecutions are the evidence of this policy.

You sure about that? I don't doubt that things have changed as a result of those prosecutions, but the only reason the prosecutions happened in the first place was because of persistent rumours and a journalist who sniffed out a story.

[Slingshot]

I hate to say it, but that officer has almost given a defense for running.

"sorry officer, I didn't realise that you were pursing me, therefore I was not running. You see, the mirrors on these fandangled sports bikes are useless and I wear earplugs cause the my pipes are just so loud"

[Deano]

I hate to say it, but that officer has almost given a defense for running.

"sorry officer, I didn't realise that you were pursing me, therefore I was not running. You see, the mirrors on these fandangled sports bikes are useless and I wear earplugs cause the my pipes are just so loud"

Touche.