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    Quote Originally Posted by Bykey Cop View Post
    This will no doubt start appearing in the patrol vehicle's windscreen along with the Stalker...

    http://www.stalkerradar.com/rdd/Stal...-Detector.html
    Are there radar detector detector detectors? Or do cops have detector detector detector detectors making detector detector detectors useless?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daza View Post
    What it boils down to (a no brainer statement i know) is is money to be made for the govern-mint. I don't think they will put a blackbox on our vehicles to physically force and limit speed to 100-110 only. Because there would be no money in fines for speeding. But i do see a future with road-tolling devices road-users are forced to pay for and have installed, that can backtrack your travels and calculate your average speed. The ultimate speeding fines method eh...

    The best way to cook a Lobster unaware is very very slowly.
    Most modern cars have speed limiters. For example Mercedes cars can only go 155mph because further than that things start to break. Why can't they have a 60-65mph limiter instead?

    My VFR was limited to 180kph at one stage, when the speedo needle hit 180 power to the engine is cut to slow it down, but a previous owner got rid of that.

    It's cheaper and easier to make a black box that limits the vehicle to legal speeds. It's already in most cars. It's much harder and more expensive to make a black box that records speeds and sends information to the cops. But they seem to want to opt for the option with manufacturing contracts and speeding fines. This prooves that it's not (at least not just) safety on policy makers minds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NighthawkNZ View Post
    But would be the only thing Uncle Elen would do right... fuck I hate Xmas... while we are at ban Easter too, and birthdays... oh andevery other stat holiday...


    No, just rename them "Stat Holiday's"...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coyote View Post
    To who? No group of politically minded people believe in freedom for the majority.
    Maybe try 120 KB members in govt... good party at least!

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    Hmmm
    Im okay as my Busa is speed limited (about 300Kph HAHA)
    serious tho ,I liken my detector to the reason cop car are painted bright colours, it is a constant reminder to keep within the limits? It warns me frequently that i need to slow down.

    And this new law will be great as the cops now will leave their detectors on all the time ,rather than switch them on as they get close ,to hide from detectors, they are going to be much easier to spot .
    Less chance of being caught,less chance of finding that hidden detector with the H.A.R.D. system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toaster View Post
    I think some of you are really missing the point... they have reduced many of the fines quite considerably - so no, it is not about revenue.
    This always assumes that the tolerances will stay the same. Maybe they'll start ticketing at 5km/h over instead of 10 i.e. more tickets = more revenue even with the lowered fines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toaster View Post
    I think some of you are really missing the point... they have reduced many of the fines quite considerably - so no, it is not about revenue.
    Use your @#%$! brain.
    They have increased the most common fine level.The ones Ma & Pa Kettle get and obediently pay immediately.
    They will get more revenue from these changes

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElCoyote View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Toaster View Post
    I think some of you are really missing the point...

    The idea is that radar detectors would no longer be able to be used because such use shows a clear intention to speed when they are trying to get people to slow down.
    Indeed they are and it will alter the road toll not one iota and in fact it may increase with more vehicles to a given area blindly following the leader.

    Countries that alllow "water to find it's own level" have significantly fewer fatalities than New Zealand ever will.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bykey Cop View Post
    This will no doubt start appearing in the patrol vehicle's windscreen along with the Stalker...

    http://www.stalkerradar.com/rdd/Stal...-Detector.html
    They may have worked in 2004.
    A recent test had V1 and other high end detectors sitting right next to the Stalker RDD and it didn't detect them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daza View Post
    How will they go about phrasing this ban in over two years?
    Especially from the opposition benches

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    Quote Originally Posted by davereid View Post

    It will be so easy to get 100 points in two years.
    Oh, you will be able to be forced to walk far faster than that.
    Exceed a speed limit by 50% and your vehicle will be impounded.
    Say you missed that 30 km/hr road works sign and were doing more than 45 km/hr - walkies time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pixie View Post
    I only use my V1 to recieve SWS signals ,so I don't crash into tractors.
    Likewise Pixie, mine is just a safety device !!


    ps. ya know, with all the doom and gloom we hear and get shoved at us, I'm still riding the same way 43 years on ! The game continues .....................................

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pixie View Post
    Use your @#%$! brain.
    They have increased the most common fine level.The ones Ma & Pa Kettle get and obediently pay immediately.
    They will get more revenue from these changes
    Oh I use my brain all the time, albeit one-sided.

    How many tickets have you had now? Must be a few since you sound so bitter. Slow down and hey magic... problem disappears. Either that or take a hard pill and stop complaining about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toaster View Post
    Slow down and hey magic... problem disappears.
    The problem remains. Our activities are being curtailed in the name of safety when what we're doing is not dangerous in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cold comfort View Post
    Its' actually $150. I am going to be in trouble with the wife when she reads this as she just got a radar detector yesterday (my suggestion)
    I hope this will encourage people to vote Harry (and Helen)out particuarly as the prick supports WRBarriers ignoring all evidence against them. Typically this crap llegislation does nothing to address the incompetence of NZ and tourist driver, recidivist disqualified/drunk drivers etc -the real cause of death.
    I'd think carefully about this!

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