Chain wax "non-messy"?

**Jimmy B** · 7th January 2008, 12:27

Originally Posted by Jim2

Spectro is definitely better than Motul, but Maxima is the same leap over Spectro as Spectro is over Motul.

I like how it smells.

I was a Motul guy and it was great but it sure left a lot of poopage in those hard to reach places. I have taken to Fuch's Silkolene of late and it seems pretty good and very clean but not as "lubey" as Motul. Do you know (or anyone else for that matter) how the Maxima would compare to the Fuch's ?

**vifferman** · 7th January 2008, 12:33

Originally Posted by Jimmy B

I was a Motul guy and it was great but it sure left a lot of poopage in those hard to reach places.

Yes.
Lotsa chain spooge, and very sticky. It ended up dribbling - no, oozing - down from the countershaft cover onto my sidestand. Inevitably, it ended up on my boot, and tracked inside onto our new carpet.

Thank goodness for brake cleaner. Cleaned up before the vifferbabe was any the wiser.

So, Maxima it is, then? Must get some when I've used my last vestiges of TheOtherTwoChainSpoogeIngredients.

**Jimmy B** · 7th January 2008, 12:47

Originally Posted by vifferman

Yes.
Lotsa chain spooge, and very sticky. It ended up dribbling - no, oozing - down from the countershaft cover onto my sidestand. Inevitably, it ended up on my boot, and tracked inside onto our new carpet.

Thank goodness for brake cleaner. Cleaned up before the vifferbabe was any the wiser.

Sweet baby Jesus that was a close one....

My mate has just picked up a K1 GSXR1000 and there's Motul spooge aplenty collecting just as you have described, I will relay your remedy before the inevitable.

**Warr** · 7th January 2008, 12:56

I have just bought a new can of the Motul Wax know as "Motul Chain Lube Clear (Road)"
It was a huge improvement over the Castrol Spray on oil.
The Motul does tend to produce gunk that gathers behind the front sprocket and has ended up on my boots and foot peg. But fortunately not the carpet.
This present chain will be going in the bin after the next visit to the dealer for a replacement.
Has done 15K kms. Sadly on the Grand Challenge it didnt receive any love and this resulted in stretching and rust appearing on the side plates even after I had tried to revive it.

I'll make a note to buy the Maxima stuff next time tho since everyone has given it the vote.

**cowpoos** · 7th January 2008, 13:21

Ya know the biggest key to stop chain lube of any sort flying over your rear wheel...is lubing the things when you get back from a ride...especially while the chain is still warm/hot...

as a prefference...I use chainsaw bar lube...other wise...what ever I can borrow of someone else at the time...

**vifferman** · 7th January 2008, 13:51

Originally Posted by cowpoos

Ya know the biggest key to stop chain lube of any sort flying over your rear wheel...is lubing the things when you get back from a ride...especially while the chain is still warm/hot...

Yup, that's what I do.
But it's not the biggest key - that would be to be very sparing with the lube.
I carefully spray just a smidgeon on each link (and then only on the links, not the rollers), and wipe the excess off the chain when I'm finished. With the solvents they put in the aerosols now, the lube penetrates very well, so with an O-ring or X-ring chain, you don't need to spray heaps on.

**oldrider** · 7th January 2008, 15:09

I hope that some of you may want to think about this because it is about my personal experience and conclusion about chains and their maintenance!

Having begun to ride bikes in the early fifties and then later qualified as a Fitter and Turner, you might understand that I have had a long history with chains.

Associated not only the motorcycle world but with industry at large.

The modern sealed chain is an absolute blessing compared to the early ones and their care and attention for a long life is minimal by comparison.

However, they can still be a pain in the arse if you want to extract the maximum life and minimise the attention needed and at the same time keep your bike in a presentable state of appearance. (pride and joy stuff)

I had decided that once I had owned a shaft drive bike, I would never ever return to a chain drive again, BUT and a BIG BUT!

I had three strokes and was forced to go back to a smaller capacity lighter bike for a while.

CHAINS AGAIN!!!!

I do not like ScottOilers because they are basically the same as the oilers we used to use on merchant ships, unreliable, constantly needing adjusting and generally just a pain in the arse.

But, Scott Scottoilers are better than no oiler, even though they make a hell of a mess of your bike, they do increase the life of your chain and sprockets.

Spray on cans are a debatable alternative, they have to be sticky enough and gooey enough to stay on long enough to give any benefit and so they have to be applied as stated often on here at the end of a ride or when the chain is warm.

They are also damned expensive and take up valuable space somewhere on your bike and sometimes have been known to explode!

The bloody mess they create in and around the primary sprocket and covers is extraordinary, not to mention the fling off over the rest of the bike!

If you want your bike looking good you then have to clean it all off, it hasn't helped your chain one bit while it is parked all over it on anything else BUT the chain!

False economy IMHO.

The Pro-oiler has transformed my bike into a absolute joy to keep clean, and it keeps my chain in such good condition that I would not even consider a drive shaft bike over a chain drive just for that reason, in fact I think it now gives the chain drive the edge.

At last "I" am in charge of my chain, not the other way round

and it is a good feeling!

I have got the setting sussed for tarmac but have yet to get it completely refined for gravel/off road use, the problem being that we tend to use too high a setting in preference to a lower setting.

The Pro-oiler is so precise and so manageable (even on the move) and uses so little oil, it belies our preconceptions of what is enough oil!

I have had the Pro-oiler on my bike for quite a few thousand miles now and while I am still learning the benefits and how to get the absolute best out of it, I have absolutely no qualms about promoting it as the best bit of bling I have ever bought for a motorcycle!

Also by adding a product called ACF-50 to the oil (lubes, penetrates, resists corrosion and chases water out of your chain) you get even more protection for the chain.

I am finding the ACF-50 highly beneficial when riding in rain or going in and out of fords etc, a quick wipe down on arrival home and the chain is as good as gold.

You do still get fling off but it is at an absolute minimum compared to all the other chain lube methods that I have tried.

Setting the units up can be a bit tricky if you are not electrically inclined, you may need the assistance of a technician to sort it out initially.

My genius son in law helped me get it sussed.

He re-wrote the instructions so that an idiot could follow them! (albeit with a little difficulty

) Cheers John.

PS: I have posted this because I never knew that chain drive could be as satisfying as mine is now.

**doc** · 7th January 2008, 15:20

Originally Posted by oldrider

PS: I have posted this because I never knew that chain drive could be as satisfying as mine is now.

So as you are a salesman for the product . What discount are you offering KB'rs. I would like the instructions with my order to be done in LARGE PRINT. I saw I googled and I believed, so I ordered.

Scottoiler is so darkages

**oldrider** · 7th January 2008, 18:16

Originally Posted by doc

So as you are a salesman for the product . What discount are you offering KB'rs. I would like the instructions with my order to be done in LARGE PRINT. I saw I googled and I believed, so I ordered.

Scottoiler is so darkages

The guy's name is Pablo, seems a really nice guy.

He gets into overkill with the information he sends but it is all good value in the end.

If you have any questions when you get it, give me a ring, PM or contact me on Skype, I might be able to help.

Doc, you can have my commission and my wife's commission too but don't expect it to go far! Twice nothing is still nothing, damn it!

Thanks for the video, I got it on Friday and it was fun looking at it on the computer but it wouldn't go on the DVD/TV player! Cheers John.

**SVboy** · 7th January 2008, 19:47

Very nice, but I am a great fan of Maxima wax. I went from Sikoline-very good-to Maxima and have minimal fling. I apply when chain is warm...and leave bike overnight if possible for solvents to completely evaporate. I likeeee.

**James Deuce** · 7th January 2008, 21:11

Originally Posted by Jimmy B

I was a Motul guy and it was great but it sure left a lot of poopage in those hard to reach places. I have taken to Fuch's Silkolene of late and it seems pretty good and very clean but not as "lubey" as Motul. Do you know (or anyone else for that matter) how the Maxima would compare to the Fuch's ?

Apparently Fuch's are going to disappear from the shelves in NZ.

I used to use Fuch's many eons ago, and I can't recall if the Maxima is better or not.

**NZsarge** · 7th January 2008, 21:17

Originally Posted by cowpoos

Ya know the biggest key to stop chain lube of any sort flying over your rear wheel...is lubing the things when you get back from a ride...especially while the chain is still warm/hot...

as a prefference...I use chainsaw bar lube...other wise...what ever I can borrow of someone else at the time...

Blardy hell! C'mon over into the 21st century there dude.