argh $%*(

[ital916]

I make a point of looking ahead through corners xerxes, if only i could remember the route then i would be able to show you guys, but yeah it was tight. I will learn from this, im guessing if the vanishing point is very close it's getting tighter?

[MSTRS:Me]

.... im guessing if the vanishing point is very close it's getting tighter?

No. Only that it is tight. If the VP 'moves' towards you, it's getting tighter.
And it does sound like you are not looking far enough ahead. In a really tight corner, your focal point should be beyond the VP. Or recognise the signs and slow down earlier. Spotting a potential problem before your reaction time is used up avoids bins.

[quickbuck]

Like he said.

[ital916]

thanks guys, i will try my hardest to look even further. I must sound like a real idiot eh lol

[xwhatsit]

thanks guys, i will try my hardest to look even further. I must sound like a real idiot eh lol

No, not really -- it's something all motorcyclists have to learn at the beginning. Takes a little while before you pick up the knack of doing it automatically but you'll get it.

Yep, keep looking as far ahead as you possibly can. When you can see more road ahead, look further.

[discotex]

thanks guys, i will try my hardest to look even further. I must sound like a real idiot eh lol

Woohoo it's not another "I binned it thread"

You had me worried for a second there.

Physics usually dictates that braking on a corner is a BAD move. You seem to have learned that one from before so good on you.

Just to ram it home... If a rider brakes without losing grip then they could have just leaned over more (exactly what you did). If they lean more and bin as a result then braking wouldn't have helped as they were in far too hot anyway.

As long as there's lean angle left always use that. Better yet, brake more than you think you need to while upright, apex late, then get back on the power earlier.

And remember that riding with mates better than you who don't take your skill level into account will get your into a world of trouble.

[Padmei]

Yeah but what about corners that are blind? I have been around a couple of left hand blind corners onthe same road relatively slowly but each time underestimate the tightness of them & end up on the other side of the road.

Both times there was no oncoming traffic but had there been I would have been toast. I understand about hitting the right apex etc but what about when theyre blind?
Any help appreciated

[Grub]

Yeah but what about corners that are blind? I have been around a couple of left hand blind corners onthe same road relatively slowly but each time underestimate the tightness of them & end up on the other side of the road.

One of my defences for that is not to commit to a corner's apex until I can see the exit line. What that means in practice is holding outside of the apex and tipping in late, that almost always results in the "classic racing line" where you are then able to apply power progressively before you have clipped the apex.