Well that doesn't count. 24 hours without a coffee stop? Not on a Triumph *ahem*.Originally Posted by imdying
The 675 that PB blew up, not withstanding
Pasta farts
Well that doesn't count. 24 hours without a coffee stop? Not on a Triumph *ahem*.The 675 that PB blew up, not withstanding
Man, you are too square.
Well, I've read that that particular failure was a valve failure during a 24-hr endurance race/test (cause never satisfactorily resolved).The 675 that PB blew up, not withstanding
I'm not saying that there isn't a potential issue. But I do think that if there was a serious problem with the engine, there would be a lot more press coverage, recalls, irate owners spewing on internet forums, etc, etc.
As it is, we are talking 3 bikes: One being raced hard over a long period, and two that were being used as long-term press test bikes (and alledgedly being thrashed and badly-maintained).
Forum whore
Bike magazine's 675 ran out of oil and seized between services. PB weren't the only magazine to experience engine failure or excessive oil consumption during long term tests.
"Normal" people have experienced engine failure during run in - http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Arch.../msg08425.html
Triumph owners on a couple of forums I've looked at are really quick to shout anyone down who complains about oil consumption in excess of 1 litre/4000kms. It has 6000km service intervals, and yes I check my oil, but a lot of people don't. I'm investigating because I am almost "fiscally" intrigued by the Tiger Cub.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
Geriatric hoon
I don't think that thread will be completely relevant because the second engine only ran the bearings much more recently and from memory the story I mentioned is in the latest BIKE issue to reach our shores.
There is nothing sensational in the way the article is presented. The BIKE staff are, if anything, contrite and somewhat chastened. (As well they might be.)
There is a grey blur, and a green blur. I try to stay on the grey one. - Joey Dunlop
Man, you are too square.
Exactly the sort of sources of info I was obliquely referring to. Thankyou Jim.
Useful research for me as a potential Triumph owner.
However, strip away the shouting on both sides of the fence and it seems to boil down to 'if you own a new Triumph, check your oil level frequently: between services, every couple of thousand K, when there's nothing on the telly, or when you're waiting for the kettle to boil'.
And not 'OMG the 675 engine is a dog they're all going to seize and blow up the sky is falling triumph dropped the ball again still what can you expect usual shitty brit engineering better buy a jappa'.
Forum whore
Exactly what I was thinking.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
Would you like some CANDY!?!?!
It's got a dipstick. Annoying.
L-Plate Rider
Bombus - How on earth did you get 350Kms out of an SV? I usually only got around 230-250. Maybe I'm just riding badly. Usually cruise everwhere with the revs around 4-5k unless needed otherwise.[/QUOTE]
Done 14k & always filled up after 340.. usually taking a bit under 15l to fill. Not that careful either. Only weigh 70K so could be that. Did enjoy the 675 & would have probably gone for it at the time I got the SV had it been around, but SV doing the business fine for me now.. B
Man, you are too square.
Two thoughts:
First - if I buy a brand-new Striple and it shits itself while under warrenty, it's a problem, but not as much of a problem as if I'd bought a second-hand Daytona out of warranty where it turns out the engine is a dog.
Second - I remember reading recently (sportsbike magazine) that all new bikes tend to be delivered with not-quite-as-good-as-it-could-be oil - not just Triumphs. They recommended changing the oil as soon as was reasonably possible, not necessarily waiting for the first service.
Pasta farts
Heh they actually turn up empty. But all new Triumphs use Mobil 1 racing. No problem with oil quality (the warranty actually specifies it).
FWIW: Holeshot have been nothing but outstanding in dealing with warranty claims and I couldn't have asked for better service.
Forum whore
What's this Tiger Cub you're referring to?
The only T/C I know of was a scaled down T100 in the 60's, with a 200cc motor. (There was also a 150cc model called the Terrier.)
"Statistics are used as a drunk uses lampposts - for support, not illumination."
Forum whore
675 Engined Tiger.
"It's just a rumour".
Uh huh. Just like the Street Triple was a rumour
Bit shorter for us normal people and still has that lovely triple feel and sound and a much smaller Insurance bill than the 1050.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
Forum whore
Funny, that. After looking, (read drooling) at a Street Triple recently I thought to meself, "Why don't they do a 675 Tiger...they could re-introduce the 'Cub' name?"
Great minds think alike.
"Statistics are used as a drunk uses lampposts - for support, not illumination."
Geriatric hoon
I didn't read anything remotely like that. And I do read the magazine.
Two big end bearings failed in the Tiger (November '07 issue). Hardly minor I'd have thought, but I guess it depends on your perspective.
Triumph say there is no oil consumption issue with their engines...
Triumph also say the pistons in the Street Triple are a new design to reduce oil consumption. This new design will also be introduced to the Daytona 675.
The 1977 "industry standard" for oil consumption quoted by Triumph is one litre per thousand miles. As BIKE point out nobody makes bikes like that these days.
The BIKE staffer confesses to being an "utter idiot" and "rather stupid". He does write though that a bike shouldn't use half its oil between services and he just wasn't expecting anything like that sort of consumption.
The Tiger had only done 4,000 miles when the engine failed. For an oil and filter change Triumph recommend 3.2l in that engine. When it failed it contained 1.8l.
At no point did the warning light come on, nor did the engine temperature rise.
It's always a good idea to check your oil level and since reading that item I have taken a renewed interest in that particular little window on the side of my bike.
I didn't see anybody say don't buy a Triumph, but if I had one I'd consider it prudent to check the oil regularly. Perhaps even very regularly
There is a grey blur, and a green blur. I try to stay on the grey one. - Joey Dunlop
Forum whore
Funny that. Me too.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
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