Idiot bike riders!

[RT527]

hopefully then the local governments will start providing adaquate venues for all to ride.while they keep making these fucked up bylaws restricting the use of mx bikes and trying to shut mx parks down they need to realise that its these sorts of things that are going to keep happening.although like anything, there will always be a few that fuck it up for the rest!


wat were the parents thinking letting him take off that late at night anyway?
they are just as responsable if you ask me.

Why should the Government and or local govt provide you and others a special place...If you want a special place go buy some land with your mates and get on with it yourself, maybe then we should be protesting that the regulations be relaxed for the mx parks so we can go about doing it ourselves.....

Goes with out saying,asking for the local govt to put forward ratepayers money for something they may and probably will not use is a bit much to ask ?, is it not?.

[RT527]

fuck off dickhead!!!

Wow is that the only constructive thing you can come up with, ...Your intelligence Is outstanding , along with you brain.....out.....standing......

[telliman]

and if that was your child would you still have the same opinion? would you still want those bikes in the same the same enviorment as you and your family at the beach? or are you one of those people who as long as the bikes arn;t effecting you then who gives a fuck?

[takitimu]

Why should the Government and or local govt provide you and others a special place...If you want a special place go buy some land with your mates and get on with it yourself, maybe then we should be protesting that the regulations be relaxed for the mx parks so we can go about doing it ourselves.....

Goes with out saying,asking for the local govt to put forward ratepayers money for something they may and probably will not use is a bit much to ask ?, is it not?.

Why are we any different to trampers, mountain bikers, car racing, dragsters etc etc, where there is a balance of private & public facilities/support especially given the numbers of offroad riders in NZ ( 1,000 is not uncommon for trail rides ).

In short your arguement is ill informed & purely provocative, definitely not worthy of this forum.

[Deano]

hopefully then the local governments will start providing adaquate venues for all to ride.

That's the same argument the boy racers use. Do you really think it is credible ?

No matter what facilities are provided by the state, there are always some tards who will fuck it up, as you acknowledge.

It will unfortunately not prevent incidents like this occurring.

[justsomeguy]

Why are we any different to trampers, mountain bikers, car racing, dragsters etc etc, where there is a balance of private & public facilities/support especially given the numbers of offroad riders in NZ ( 1,000 is not uncommon for trail rides ).

In short your arguement is ill informed & purely provocative, definitely not worthy of this forum.

A lot of us regularly attend trackdays, which several companies offer and organise due to the demand we have created.

If there are so many of you why aren't there places created? Simple economics suggests people should be clamouring for your business if over 1000 of you turn up regularly. Why do you (dirtbikers) need to ride your bikes near the public then, in a manner that may make them fear for their safety?

1000 bikes at a NZ road circuit open day is a very successful number.

What the f do you know about this forum anyway that makes you question one of the earliest and well respected members?

[justsomeguy]

and if that was your child would you still have the same opinion? would you still want those bikes in the same the same enviorment as you and your family at the beach? or are you one of those people who as long as the bikes arn;t effecting you then who gives a fuck?

A bike didn't kill that girl.

A person did.

We don't need to fix the bike(s) and where they are found, we need to fix the demeanour of people who ride like that.

[awayatc]

A bike didn't kill that girl.

A person did.

We don't need to fix the bike(s) and where they are found, we need to fix the demeanour of people who ride like that.

NOBODY can say anything regarding this sorry saga that beats or belies this simple statement of fact.....

Why is "common sense" called common sense when in fact it seems to be hard to find......

Why look for intelligent lifeforms in outerspace when they are hard enough to find on earth?

[telliman]

A bike didn't kill that girl.

A person did.

We don't need to fix the bike(s) and where they are found, we need to fix the demeanour of people who ride like that.

i;ll remember that next time a road biker crashes doing 150km and makes contact with wat is refered to as a cheese cutter! theres plenty of road bikes out there breaking laws in the same manner as this kid did, putting in danger far more people than wat this kid did!lucky you that after you have enjoyed your organised track days as you put it, you then get to enjoy the open road that my tax money and rates go towards paying for as well.forums are for expressing opinion which is all we have done ,dont care how long you.v been a member mate, respect is to be earned. COCKSUCKER!

[RT527]

Why are we any different to trampers, mountain bikers, car racing, dragsters etc etc, where there is a balance of private & public facilities/support especially given the numbers of offroad riders in NZ ( 1,000 is not uncommon for trail rides ).

In short your arguement is ill informed & purely provocative, definitely not worthy of this forum.

Mine is not an argument , purely an opinion based on what I do part time and the experiences learned from having the opinion that everything should be provided for the ones who break the law ....so that they wont break the law....But it never works that way...

My point was simple, And I'm all for places to be provided, just that the users of said location should be the ones paying and that local and central govts should be relaxing the rules/regulations around areas like these so it can be accomplished.

[RT527]

i;ll remember that next time a road biker crashes doing 150km and makes contact with wat is refered to as a cheese cutter! theres plenty of road bikes out there breaking laws in the same manner as this kid did, putting in danger far more people than wat this kid did!lucky you that after you have enjoyed your organised track days as you put it, you then get to enjoy the open road that my tax money and rates go towards paying for as well.forums are for expressing opinion which is all we have done ,dont care how long you.v been a member mate, respect is to be earned. COCKSUCKER!

Wow....I thought everyones tax/and rates goes towards the roads ,...Some more than others.

Its all about choices, you make the choice to express your concerns/opinion with out giving thought to others, no one has called you a wanker or cocksucker or told you to fuck off !!.

That boy made a choice too, bad as it was, it was still a choice......Others who break the law on our roads also make poor choices.......everyone makes bad decisions, its how we learn.

[RT527]

and if that was your child would you still have the same opinion? would you still want those bikes in the same environment as you and your family at the beach? or are you one of those people who as long as the bikes aren't effecting you then who gives a fuck?

I do know that there are other places for him to ride, And If he had been respectful of others...if anyone was riding near or around my family and was responsible,then yes I wouldn't mind them....but given that accidents happen..( That is something of which I know a great deal about)then I would insist that the person/s involved use the appropriate facilities, If I remember properly then there are places to ride around Murawai/woodhill.

And I certainly do give a fuck if something affects me....I`m replying to you......aren't I ?.

[Ixion]

hopefully then the local governments will start providing adaquate venues for all to ride.while they keep making these fucked up bylaws restricting the use of mx bikes and trying to shut mx parks down they need to realise that its these sorts of things that are going to keep happening.although like anything, there will always be a few that fuck it up for the rest!


wat were the parents thinking letting him take off that late at night anyway?
they are just as responsable if you ask me.

Mx (moto-cross, I presume) is a form of racing. Racing of any sort (including bloody treadly racing) is not appropriate on public roads (unless they are specifically closed for the event). A beach is no different to any other road. The beachs are designated as public roads so that the public (including motorcyclists) can access the parts of the coast line not otherwise accessible. It is not, and never was, intended that they should be used as racetracks (barring a few special exceptions, like the pre war Muriwai races).

I do agree however that motor sport in general gets a bum deal when it comes to provision of facilities. Many sports have facilities provided for them at taxpayer or ratepayer expense (Eden park, anyone?) Why should motorsport in its various forms be less privileged ?

[dragonz]

I'm a concerned biker, sounds to me like all of you are too!
The problem we face is that the general (non-motorcycling) public, see an incident like this & put us all in the same basket.

If we cannot find some common accord between all bikers (on road, off road, quad riders etc) to reign in the idiots, Show some moral responsibility, push for more places to ride & better access, then we will find our bikes ALL outlawed!

We need to wake up & smell the roses, we are a minority group, & a highly splinterd one at that, in a land where PC rules. (& motorbikes aren't seen as PC)

Incidents like this are nails in the coffin of our sport of motorcycling!
Are you prepared to stand up & set aside your personal likes & dis-likes so we all can keep riding, & our children can too?

[Danger]

I read in the Herald today that this lad has been racing MX for two years! I would have hoped that someone involved in the motorcycle scene would be a bit more respectful of other beach users. That kind of does lump us in the same basket unfortunatley as far as outsiders looking in would view us. And yeah, we will all end up paying in some way for his idiocy. Not as much as the family's directly effected.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/...ectid=10486539