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Keep the guns oiled and the temple clean
Shit,snort and blaspheme
Thats the one.
What was involved was a bunch of people who were angry and had access to guns for retaliation...
Army and police having guns - yes.
Farmer having one gun for farming purposes - yes (but why have huge collections of the stupid things!)
Average jo-blogs in the suburbs to show off to his mates and goes to a fireing range every now and again - no, thats the type of person that ends up going on killing spree's.
"Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary - that's what gets you."
Jeremy Clarkson.
Kawasaki 200mph Club
Your accusing me of being one liable to go on a killing spree. Your showing your ignorance on the subject. I shoot competitively. I enjoy my sport and there is a lot more to it than pulling a trigger and going bang.
I go hunting too. Are going to villify me for that too, becuase if you are I hope your a vegetarian, the cow in the hamburger you just ate didnt commit suicide.
Are you aware of the vetting policy that is involved for obtaining a firearms license, and the different types of license? Didnt think so. I mentioned previously that many who argue against private firearms ownership revert to emotive argument as there is no valid logical argument they cannot come across, or that cannot be proven incorrect. You appear to be one of these people, and have proven that you know little on the subject. next topic.
But can't ships have people on too
[QUOTE=sAsLEX;1398648]Rifles might be but guns are for destroying ships!
We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl, year after year,
Running over the same old ground.
What have you found? The same old fears.
Wish you were here. QWQ
I understand completly the process of obtaining a license.
Whenever a minority group is given a generalistic label like I did in my earlier posts, there is bound to be a percentage of error. IE - Not every single person that has a firearms license is a mass murderer.
You bite far to easily, but your concern is just. Your argument is just as valid as mine despite both parties not having a 100% complete picture.
I am not retracting my comment, quite the contary as my opinion still stands. Guns may not kill people but people do - yes that is true, but it remains that guns a very effective method of killing and prove 100% success rate in the intimidation scale when used by criminals/law inforcement.
Remember - the only reason the police have to have firearms is because the general public can get a license and go out and buy a gun... the more people that have them the higher the risk to me and my family, the higher the need for the police to have them and before you know it we turn into America... no-one should want that. I could not stand the thought of having to keep a gun on my property soley for protection from scum. Protecting myself from something so clearly dangerous that strict policing at the start could have prevented.
Keep your gun. Does not bother me - bring one onto my property and it will be the last time you do so! Leave your gun case unlocked - thats in the same ball park as leaving the front gates of a prison unlocked.
Dont flame me for my opinions - this world is fucked up enough as it is without people putting people down for having one! Remember I was never asking you or anyone else to change or do anything diferent - I was simply stating my opinion. An opinion that should be respected and valued just as much as your own opinon.
"Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary - that's what gets you."
Jeremy Clarkson.
Kawasaki 200mph Club
There has been a number of killings in the media over the past couple of days.
How many used guns as you call them?
Anyone is capable of going on a killing spree without a gun.....
Bullshit.
The two recent times lethal force has been used has been against a golf club and a hammer.
Should we ban building and chasing little white balls?
We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl, year after year,
Running over the same old ground.
What have you found? The same old fears.
Wish you were here. QWQ
Building.......Golf.............![]()
We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl, year after year,
Running over the same old ground.
What have you found? The same old fears.
Wish you were here. QWQ
i have a walther LGR target rifle... do some research you single minded prat.
Why do rugby players tackle each other to the ground? You only do that to hurt people.
Why do cricket players beat shit with a stick, it seems very violent.
I target shoot because its a sport that requires skill. The skill to steady your heart and breathing so you can make that shot. Skills which i have polished over the past several years.
What need do you have for a motorcycle? A car is a much safer alternative..
Fair one, but I dont agree about your opinion on license holders. If your going to go and shoot somebody whith a firearms, you dont go get a licnese first. Luckily we havent had to many nutters going on a rampage here, and I am only aware of one that had a license, which neighbours had been petitioning to police to remove. The result of this incident was the significant reworking of firearms legislation in this country.
People that own them are not inheritly bad. They are just normal people like everybody else. (and any licnese firearms owner that leaves their collection unlocked needs a swift kick in the arse and removal of their license, so I dont know where that comment came from)
If you dont want to have anything to do with the shooting community, ok good for you, they dont want to force their sport on to you, intimidate you or make you feel uncomfortable. What they do want is to enjoy their sport without people making unfounded claims and making their lives difficult. Thing is, your average joe blogs shooter is not out to get you and wont hurt you.
Are you aware of the Bristish situation? Ever since effectively banning all firearms from licensed shooters, firearms and violent crimes have jumped. one quote that comes to mind is if you criminalize guns only criminals will have guns. Shooters in this country are becoming increasingly concerend to try to prevent their sport becoming criminalised with no logical founding. THose against scream bloody murder with emotive arguments and seem to get places as they have the media support. Those are pro shooting dont receive anywhere near the media attention and so the public receive a one sided story that creates a perception of a problem far out of scale from reality.
We are all aware of the implications should a firearms be misused (death/serious injury) which is exactly why shooting ranges are such controlled environments with range wardens ensuring that all precautions and procedures are followed. Trust me the shooting community loathes these nutters that go on the rampage just as much as you do, each time it happens it damages our sport, and ruins the lives of those involved.
Sorry for the long post, but one last comment, the vetting process for obtaining a license is designed to prevent those with the mentality of being capapble to go on the rampage from obtaining a license. I am in no way capable of doing so, neither is anybody I know that shoots.
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