Check your licence

**Beemer** · 29th January 2008, 13:19

Originally Posted by jrandom

Using a motor vehicle on the roads is a privilege, not a right.

A requirement to keep the necessary paperwork up to date and a fine for being lazy about it that's equivalent to the fine for breaching a condition of a restricted licence seem reasonable enough to me.

I agree, but LTNZ need a boot up the arse regarding information sharing or even just having the common sense to use the white pages or electoral roll to find people. When we moved five years ago I advised everyone of my new address. I let them know for car/bike registrations and for the past five years all the renewal notices have been arriving without any problems.

Last year I knew my licence would be due for renewal (as I turned 45) and assumed it would be either August (the month I got my full car licence) or December (the month I got my full bike licence). One day in April I checked to see when it expired and discovered it had expired a few weeks before. Thankfully I was given a temporary licence until the renewed one was ready, but if I hadn't noticed, I could have been ticketed.

What annoys me the most is that when they checked, they said they had sent two or three reminder notices out but they had been returned. Funny that, considering the address they had been sending them to was one I had last lived at in 2000. When I said they had my new address as they had been sending out registration reminders to it, I was told that was dealt with on another floor. How pathetic is that? If they had even done a perfunctory search under my name on the internet they would have come up with my webpage (that includes my postal address) or my entry in the white pages. But no, they'd rather keep sending out reminders to a place I hadn't lived at for seven years.

**jahrasti** · 29th January 2008, 15:10

Originally Posted by Quasievil

Well I think the cop was being a bit of a prick, he could have offered diversion on presentation of a valid license within 7 days, hey that just aint the Kiwi way is it....................common

Why is the cop a prick? He could of been, but what if the guy he is dealing with was also being a prick? The attitude test goes a long way.

What if for arguements sake he knew it was expired and couldn't be bothered to renew it? He would rather sit on KB or something?
Has he not intentionally broken the law? Is the offence any different to a learner driver that deliberatly drives with out a qualified overseer? They are both breaking the law which LTNZ set.

Possibly a Traffic Offence Notice could have been written forbidding the driver to drive untill a current apporiate drivers licence is obtained. But then please refer to my first sentence.

**90s** · 29th January 2008, 16:08

Originally Posted by bobsmith

Gotta agree with RM on this jrandom. The roads are built and maintained with the tax WE pay. To say that we can not freely use what we've paid for is utter socialistic arrogance.

Man I totally agree with you. I rocked up to the airforce base and demanded to fly one of those there fancy gee-et fighters. My taxes paid for those pretty planes and I said "I'll be da**ed sir if you commies can prevent me exercising my fiscally derived preorgative".

They did not see it that way. Have I missed something here?

**90s** · 29th January 2008, 16:13

Originally Posted by Ixion

Admittedly, I am more argumentative than most.

QED

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**Grahameeboy** · 29th January 2008, 16:27

Originally Posted by Quasievil

Well I think the cop was being a bit of a prick, he could have offered diversion on presentation of a valid license within 7 days, hey that just aint the Kiwi way is it....................common

It was probably the Kiwi way that made her think there was no rush.

No valid licence....what if her eyesight was not upto scratch and she had to get sorted first....nuff said.

**Grahameeboy** · 29th January 2008, 16:30

Originally Posted by RnB Fan

My wife got pulled over last year for speeding and the cop gave her the ticket for that but then very kindly pointed out that she wasn't insured currently as her licence had expired - a better way of going about things in my humble opinion!

Not quite correct..............if she was not prevented from obtaining a licence etc I think is the Policy wording.........she would just have to apply and show Insurer and all would be okay.

**Grahameeboy** · 29th January 2008, 16:33

Originally Posted by Morcs

When I get all my tax money back for roads, acc etc... when they suspend my license, only then ill consider it a privaledge.

Until then I have paid to be on the road, and have every right to do so.

Only the Queen can tell me otherwise.

No you have paid for roads to be built and maintained. You pay for a licence for the privalege of using the road....I mean if you did not have a licence etc are you saying that because you paid for the roads to be built that you have the right to use the road...........

**Finn** · 29th January 2008, 16:39

My paper one is a lifetime licence. I'll just use that.

**Grahameeboy** · 29th January 2008, 16:41

Originally Posted by Finn

My paper one is a lifetime licence. I'll just use that.

How do you figure that one?

**Finn** · 29th January 2008, 16:43

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

How do you figure that one?

I'll assume that our "lifetime" licences where before your time.

**Morcs** · 29th January 2008, 16:53

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

No you have paid for roads to be built and maintained. You pay for a licence for the privalege of using the road....I mean if you did not have a licence etc are you saying that because you paid for the roads to be built that you have the right to use the road...........

Yes thats exactly what im saying. I dont know any Judge/police officer has the right to tell me I cant use a road. Im British for fucks sake.

**Grahameeboy** · 29th January 2008, 16:56

Originally Posted by Finn

I'll assume that our "lifetime" licences where before your time.

Nop, same in UK.....just that I accept things change plus they were never lifetime licences due to older age requirements ie medicals etc and I guess it makes commonsense to ensure that licence holders have to satisfy that they should still have a licence as they get older etc, rather than wait until they reach 80...........

**Grahameeboy** · 29th January 2008, 16:58

Originally Posted by Morcs

Yes thats exactly what im saying. I dont know any Judge/police officer has the right to tell me I cant use a road. Im British for fucks sake.

So lets get this right, you pay for roads so this means you can drive/ ride on that road even if you don't have a licence.

The Law, Police, Judge ect do have the legal right to say you cannot use a road if you knowingly break the law.

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