Knives the 'new' weapon of choice...

[Headbanger]

As for thinking I could take the knife off the guy... I sure hope I'd be able to - but as I said, I wouldn't even consider that option if he seemed to be knowing how to use it.

He wouldn't need to "know" how to use it, Just get you with it and your in trouble.

During my "incident" 2 others grabbed the guys arms, He stabbed one in the groin, The other in the face.


No "know how", Just rage and tools.

Not that I can tell you how to handle such a situation, But if the man or child is going to use the knife on you then there is little reason to expect him to show it to you so you can gauge his skill level. More likely poke ya in the gut.

[Mr Merde]

Mr Merde, I understant what your saying, and i understand that in this country in this age the law says that. But remember that gun shop worker who shot the robber. Laws change, and thats one that should.

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I think you should look back at some of my posts.

I have a very dry sense of humour and understanding that then reading my post here you would probably discover an underlying sarcasm of the laws that govern us today and a complete distrust and almost loathing of those they assume they know whats good for us. Coupled with their enforcement departments they are the greatest threat we face today.

As to the gun shop employee, I have met Greg and his father and fully approve of the result of the case so far.

I am one of those persons vilified by the media and the bleeding heart liberal. I am a member of the most taxed and least represented group of people in this country. I'm middle aged, male,employed, hetrosexual, educated and a firearms owner. I have been trained in their use and know the devastation they can cause when used on another human being.

Its nice to see another person capable of making a rational decision with regards to their own well being but unfortunately there are too many in this country all too willing to evade any personal responsibility and pass it on to any one or any thing else.

[Mekk]

Two mags of 9mm through your chest will stop you stabbing me.

Touche...

...but you'll probably be stabbed in prison.

[Headbanger]

Touche...

...but you'll probably be stabbed in prison.

Yeah, fighting off your rapist....

[Wolf]

And so you encounter a gang of 9-year-olds with knives, they threaten you. Your life is clearly in danger, they can surround you - you can't possibly keep track of all of them, even if they don't kill you they can seriously fuck you up (that which does not kill you.... can still leave you maimed for life.)

So you've ascertained that a serious threat exists and you attempt to defend yourself. You manage to hammer the shit out of two of the little buggers before their mates get you in the kidneys. They work you over, leave you for dead and if you're liucky enough to survive you find yourself up on charges of assaulting and maiming two minors.

As to taking the knives off them in a "fair fight": I can't remember who said it (it was in some news report about a bloke who was stabbed a while back) but I cannot get out of my mind: "I thought he had punched me - and then I felt the blood flowing..."

He didn't even see the knife.

[mstriumph]

Load of rubbish.

Stabbed people die, read a newspaper. Knife fights aren't the skillful dance you see on TV.

As for me, 600 stitches, slit throat, punctured lung, Stomach/chest cut open, knife in my back (i had decided to get the fuck out) cleaved along 8 inches and exited out through my armpit.

shot people don't die?

nevertheless, sorry to hear about your incident - hope you are ok now.

[mstriumph]

You're joking here aren't you?? Most of these cunts that are stabbing people would have zero chance of obtaining a firearm. Anyone has access to a knife that will kill.

And a 'degree of skill'? More like a 'P' fuelled frenzy!! 'Artistry' and 'Precision'? It's purely BAD luck on behalf of the victims of these brutal crimes if they die. And I hope you don't ever have to tell us of you 'close encounter'.

In my opinion...you stab someone with intent to injure/maim or kill...you have BOTH hands removed with a chainsaw.

i really did think that the way i'd written it was a dead [if you'll pardon the pun] giveaway that i was trying to inject [there i go again] a note of reasonably lighthearted balance - a comparative viewpoint - into what was rapidly becoming 'another one of those threads on kb'

oh well - failed again

[ManDownUnder]

Arm the authorities with the old shotgun cartridge propelled deer nets. Net the little bugger en masse from 20m away and do what you like with them.

[Mekk]

He didn't even see the knife.

That's it. Your body goes into shock or something before you have time to react and realise what has happened.

I don't remember realising before I saw the blood flowing over my chest.

[Bikernereid]

Young kid just got stabbed in school in the UK, fuck. So if we ban guns and knives what will they use next?

[sAsLEX]

Young kid just got stabbed in school in the UK, fuck. So if we ban guns and knives what will they use next?

Guy jsut got stabbed in NZ after confronting a tagger.


I see they have embelished the story of the guy up for murder stabbing the other tagger, he was involved in a scuffle, self defence I call he was on his own property when some youfs attacked it he went to dissuade them and got involved in a scuffle.

Why is it in NZ defending your property and family always ends up with you getting in trouble?! For all its bad points this would hardly be a problem in the states

[Bikernereid]

it would be a problem in the US. Don't you remembe the guy who got sued by a burglar who got locked in the garage and survived on dog food; he sued the home owner for illegal imprisonment!!

Get sued for having the priveldge of your own home burgled and get done for protecting your home- the whole world has gone BLODDY NUTS!!

Guy jsut got stabbed in NZ after confronting a tagger.


I see they have embelished the story of the guy up for murder stabbing the other tagger, he was involved in a scuffle, self defence I call he was on his own property when some youfs attacked it he went to dissuade them and got involved in a scuffle.

Why is it in NZ defending your property and family always ends up with you getting in trouble?! For all its bad points this would hardly be a problem in the states

[Headbanger]

it would be a problem in the US. Don't you remembe the guy who got sued by a burglar who got locked in the garage and survived on dog food; he sued the home owner for illegal imprisonment!!

Get sued for having the priveldge of your own home burgled and get done for protecting your home- the whole world has gone BLODDY NUTS!!

he was sued because he had an illegal door.

In whatever state it was in they are required by law to have a door that can be manually unlocked from inside.

Not that it makes it any less insane, Personally I think if you trap someone in your house you should get to own them.

[Virago]

Guy jsut got stabbed in NZ after confronting a tagger.


I see they have embelished the story of the guy up for murder stabbing the other tagger, he was involved in a scuffle, self defence I call he was on his own property when some youfs attacked it he went to dissuade them and got involved in a scuffle.

Why is it in NZ defending your property and family always ends up with you getting in trouble?! For all its bad points this would hardly be a problem in the states

Where on earth did you get that version of events from...?

[Bikernereid]

But would you want to own anyone that stupid? Even decent slaves have intellect!!

he was sued because he had an illegal door.

In whatever state it was in they are required by law to have a door that can be manually unlocked from inside.

Not that it makes it any less insane, Personally I think if you trap someone in your house you should get to own them.