KTM Capital Coast Adventure 2008

[offrd]

That has more to do with confidence and skill (and maybe the weather) than it does to do with tyre choice.

So if Ben Townley showed up to a motorcross event on road slicks he would still be competiitive because of his confidence and skill......

[NordieBoy]

So if Ben Townley showed up to a motorcross event on road slicks he would still be competiitive because of his confidence and skill......

As long as it was a race and not just practice. He only injures himself in practice

[Oscar]

So if Ben Townley showed up to a motorcross event on road slicks he would still be competiitive because of his confidence and skill......

Use what ever tyres you want then, Dickwad.


BTW - Your smart arse analogy doesn't work as you have already told us what sort of tyres you have fitted.


You just can't help some people...

[merv]

So if Ben Townley showed up to a motorcross event on road slicks he would still be competiitive because of his confidence and skill......

The Capital Coast is not a competitve event so you don't need to be competitive, just turn up and ride and as long as you're back for dinner - fine, or we'll have to eat your share too - bugger.

[4skins]

I thought I'd put this subject to bed about a week ago. I'll reiterate on the tyre situation - one final time...

As an organiser of a dozen or so successful adventure events in the past I have learned that I must always cater for the lowest common denominator. In my selection of a route I consider it's suitability WRT a number of factors including the weather, the rider's skill, their choice of machine, tyre choices and the carrying of a pillion.

Lets consider two scenarios...

On the one extreme, a rider on a WR450 on knobs, fine weather breezes around the whole course (and does some parts twice for the hell of it) and goes home smiling for the next week.

At the other extreme is the noddy on the 1200 G/S with mum on the back, is not as good a rider as he thinks he is, on worn Touances. He's gonna have a shit of a day and not come back. Then add in some wet weather and he's stuck down a bank and I've gotta go rescue him... You get the picture.

On crap tyres, you may very well complete the course without any problems, (Josh Coppins could probably do it on slicks) but there'll be no prizes given out for that category at the prizegiving.

Fitting of good tyres you will an edge in terms of safety and enjoyment and remove one factor in the 'worst case scenario' equation. We have no control over the weather, but we do have control over tyre choice.

At the end of the day it's up to you, but don't let me have to utter the words 'I told you...'

THE END

[offrd]

Use what ever tyres you want then, Dickwad.


BTW - Your smart arse analogy doesn't work as you have already told us what sort of tyres you have fitted.


You just can't help some people...

Hell man, all i was asking was for someone that had been on the ride pervious to give some idea as to the usual ground type, if its gravel, seal and such then obviously the 07's will be fine, If its clay mud shit then i will need to go to M21's or something wont I. Pretty simple kind of bloody question.

From your answer any kind of tyre would be any good if i was any kind of decent rider hence my smart arse reply.

No your answer would not help anybody...

And if i am a dickwad then that would make you a tampon.

[offrd]

The Capital Coast is not a competitve event so you don't need to be competitive, just turn up and ride and as long as you're back for dinner - fine, or we'll have to eat your share too - bugger.

Yeah i realise that, i am just going to cruise and enjoy the day, or that is the plan......

[warewolf]

No your answer would not help anybody...

Unfortunately your question has been answered numerous times in the previous 170-odd posts in this thread. Can't blame people for being short with you.

[offrd]

Unfortunately your question has been answered numerous times in the previous 170-odd posts in this thread. Can't blame people for being short with you.

Yeah my balls up as reading back thru again i see it had all been covered.... Makes me the jack ass... How i ballsed it up.. All i can think is when i read the posts before i had the DR on M21's and knew i would be fine, Since sold that and got the BMW on as mentioned 07's which i just fitted and still have the tits on.

So not only do i look like the F***W** but i have the WRONG set of tyres for the ride and i am pissed off now... even more so as i WAS going to get the E-09's but after killing an M21 in 1000km i was wanting to keep away from knobs....

Ahhhhh shite.

IDIOT

Hides in corner

[Transalper]

I thought I'd put this subject to bed about a week ago. I'll reiterate on the tyre situation - one final time...
....
At the other extreme is the noddy on the 1200 G/S with mum on the back, is not as good a rider as he thinks he is, on worn Touances. He's gonna have a shit of a day and not come back. Then add in some wet weather and he's stuck down a bank and I've gotta go rescue him... You get the picture....

Fitting of good tyres you will an edge in terms of safety and enjoyment and remove one factor in the 'worst case scenario' equation. We have no control over the weather, but we do have control over tyre choice.

At the end of the day it's up to you, but don't let me have to utter the words 'I told you...'

THE END

A cunning plan springs to mind.. me with helmet camera wandering around at the start to see who is the worst prepared as in tyre choices on heavy bike etc, finds a good one, now he could be one of the ones I keep an eye on, ie. best chance for entertaining video for my youtube channel to be seen world wide over and over again with the subtitle popping up here and there 'You were told' as things go wrong.

I am a fairly average rider on a DR650 and from experience with different tyres on F650s, Transalps and the DR650 find when I stick the knobs on that I gain a real confidence boost in the steep and/or slippery conditions. I keep 2 sets of tyres so I'm sorted, for this trip I might at least have got a good rear to stick on to get me up the hills if nothing else.

[ducatijim]

That has more to do with confidence and skill (and maybe the weather) than it does to do with tyre choice.

Don't go there with ole Osc Duncan; he will always come back and bite you no matter which side of the debate you are on!!!!

So, u got a F650 then did you? a 180' from the hot DR eh??, well don't worry about your 'confidence and skill' , from your riding on the Waikaremoana weekend ride, you are lacking in neither of these areas!! You may even get to ride alongside Oscar and demonstrate!!

Oh yes, I am an 'expert' having never done the CCA before, so I am keeping my head down now!!.

All the best Duncan, wish I could be there too!! Jamie.

[merv]

offrd the last few Capital Coasts have been nice and easy coz the weather has been good. This one is later in the year than previously so who knows if our nice balmy late summer will have ended by then.

In Wellington there are really on two types of surface on the terrain - well weathered broken rock which has stacks of grip but is hard on your tyres for which you really only need a junk tyre, and then there's the lovely clay - stacks of grip in the dry and nice and easy to ride on - but if it rains or you're on it early in the morning with dew then its a greasy pig. No tyre grips that shit so I think I'm trying to say don't worry about it any tyre will do no matter what 4skins has said.

We don't really have deep mud around here and if we do - that's the stuff marks rides on at Karapoti and I can't imagine 4skins is including that stuff in the easy part of the ride.

Have you checked out my pics from last time here http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=27185

[offrd]

Don't go there with ole Osc Duncan; he will always come back and bite you no matter which side of the debate you are on!!!!

So, u got a F650 then did you? a 180' from the hot DR eh??, well don't worry about your 'confidence and skill' , from your riding on the Waikaremoana weekend ride, you are lacking in neither of these areas!! You may even get to ride alongside Oscar and demonstrate!!

Oh yes, I am an 'expert' having never done the CCA before, so I am keeping my head down now!!.

All the best Duncan, wish I could be there too!! Jamie.

Hi Jamie!

Ole Osc has every right to mow me down, seams i lost my brain somewhere between planning on doing the ride solo at speed on the hot DR, buying the F650 and the wife wanting to come along for the ride also! Somewhere along the path i got mild rubber rather than "Grrrr" knobblies

Strange. Must be some time warp.. So seems i have tent, bike, woman, weekend off and Arron Slights road rubber for a trail ride...

Thinking of buying another NEW set but $$$$$$ may be an issue with the other projects on the go...

If i dont get another set of new rubber then bike can stay in the shed....

If you are free this weekend i might be doing the 42 traverse.. On the F650....

[offrd]

Thanks Merv, GREAT photos!

Looks much easier than the desert storm type rides i had been doing. I gave them up after being ridden over by someone thinking it was a motor-x race!

Hell if that fat VX cruiser can get around my beeemer should LOL!

[Oscar]

Hell man, all i was asking was for someone that had been on the ride pervious to give some idea as to the usual ground type, if its gravel, seal and such then obviously the 07's will be fine, If its clay mud shit then i will need to go to M21's or something wont I. Pretty simple kind of bloody question.

From your answer any kind of tyre would be any good if i was any kind of decent rider hence my smart arse reply.

No your answer would not help anybody...

And if i am a dickwad then that would make you a tampon.

Jeez, gimme strength - having actually ridden the CCA (twice, with a preview of some of '08 last weekend), I was trying to ask you nicely if you could actually ride your F650. You did manage to come up with the I answer I was leading you to: any kind of tyre (including your Mitas ones) would be good if you were a competent rider. However anyone two-up, or new to the ride would be well advised to heed Johnny's final word on the matter above.

Having organised the odd ride (with 4skins usually) over the years, I can only endorse his blunt approach - if in doubt, get a decent set of rubber. Helping ill-prepared but over-confident noobs can get a bit boring after a while (even the odd time that involved rescue helicopters).
For John's sake I hope your riding skills are better than your reading and comprehension skills.