what did you have in mind?Originally Posted by twotyred
Yes!
No!
Yes, but with some govt restrictions of sale
Mormon Few Stunt Crew©
what did you have in mind?
Mormon Few Stunt Crew©
bit like how ppl get their lives destroyed by a family member getting killed on a "dangerous" motorbike? not the same i know, but the reasoning applies.
best not offend anyone eh?
better sweep it under the carpet
on the up
Still with the imbecile arguments eh Carver?
A motorcycle used as designed will not maim, kill or ruin the life of the user.
Read my previous post for the chemical effects of methamphetamine.
Totally different result.
And I to my motorcycle parked like the soul of the junkyard. Restored, a bicycle fleshed with power, and tore off. Up Highway 106 continually drunk on the wind in my mouth. Wringing the handlebar for speed, wild to be wreckage forever.
- James Dickey, Cherrylog Road.
Mormon Few Stunt Crew©
so the germans gave it to their forces to destroy them?
Forum whore
Not a smart move Dave. As previously mentioned a close family member died from 'P' .
The fact you have trouble even considering changing legislation that is obviously flawed, and in-spite of having it people still die from OD indicates the FFS should be directed at you and your inability to even consider change.
Furthermore if people choose to get upset about a civil conversation they need a long hard look at themselves.
I would have thought a mods primary function would be to keep the peace, not to decide what is right or wrong.
Thumbs down RantyDave.
Forum whore
The mechanical effects of the motorcycle under the right set of circumstances have the same effect. Death.
Not all motorcyclists or drug users die, in fact just the opposite, many lead happy normal lives [including ' P' and meth users]
Sucked in by government propaganda, pity the same amount of negative bile is not published in relation to tobaco?
Forum whore
I'm not in favour of legalising hard core drugs.
But I'm even less in favour of censorship.
This is a flagrant abuse of a moderators position.
Just because a certain moderator has a personal opinion about anything at all, does not entitle them to determine that contrary opinions are not entitled to be discussed.
Mr Rantydave, I happen to be a Christian ,a monarchist , and a communist. Going on the basis of your declared position , I demand that you relegate to POD anything that is posted that conflicts with any of those positions. Or , is it only the opiniosn of the Heaven Born that are automaticaly "right" and cannot be debated against?
The Heaven Born have declared that they are the "leaders" of NZ motorcyclists. You have just shown the abysmal deficiency of that leadership.
Censorship based on a position of power is NEVER a substitute for logic or valid argument. You have crushed wisdom with the blatant and abusive exercise of power.
Since debate is forbidden on subjects on which you hold a personal opinion, I suggest that, in faiurness to the members, should post up what those subjects are. So that we know what is officially forbidden to discuss.
ArseBiscuit
I have seen a friend get so fucked up on meth that he threw his missus through a plate glass window, lost his business, and lost everything that he used to enjoy in life.
I've seen a friend get his licence, buy a cbr and get hooked on the speed and spend his weekends going hard. He met a car and died bleeding on the road.
Carvers post was a troll, but i kinda agree with some of the responses.
on the up
You're still not listening guys.
A motorcycle USED AS DESIGNED will not generally cause damage to the user.
Methamphetamine USED AS DESIGNED will cause damage.
BIG DIFFERENCE.
Abuse of ANYTHING will also cause problems. It's just the level of usage before abuse is so much less with meth than motorcycles.
And I to my motorcycle parked like the soul of the junkyard. Restored, a bicycle fleshed with power, and tore off. Up Highway 106 continually drunk on the wind in my mouth. Wringing the handlebar for speed, wild to be wreckage forever.
- James Dickey, Cherrylog Road.
Celestine Prophet
These two do not have benign effects compared to toher substances. The amount of people in psych units due to cannabis induced psychosis is staggering. Research in the UK by doctors has found that the psychological affects of weed and cannavis are far worse than other drugs.
We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl, year after year,
Running over the same old ground.
What have you found? The same old fears.
Wish you were here. QWQ
Pasta La Vista
No but they did murder 6m jews to "purify" the world
Hardcore Biker
Heres an idea.
They gave it to their forces so they would accept their deaths and thus fight better.
Lay off the drugs dude, they mess with your head.
Hardcore Biker
I must fully agree with SPB here. Those who are offended can easily leave and ignore this thread. Whatever we discuss, there will always be someone offended. Let's not put our head in the sand.Not a smart move Dave. As previously mentioned a close family member died from 'P' .
The fact you have trouble even considering changing legislation that is obviously flawed, and in-spite of having it people still die from OD indicates the FFS should be directed at you and your inability to even consider change.
Furthermore if people choose to get upset about a civil conversation they need a long hard look at themselves.
I would have thought a mods primary function would be to keep the peace, not to decide what is right or wrong.
Thumbs down RantyDave.
Homo Sapiens Vulgaris
Again I agree with SPB - noone ever said P was good for anything but destroying the lives of yourself and your loved ones...Not a smart move Dave. As previously mentioned a close family member died from 'P' .
The fact you have trouble even considering changing legislation that is obviously flawed, and in-spite of having it people still die from OD indicates the FFS should be directed at you and your inability to even consider change.
Furthermore if people choose to get upset about a civil conversation they need a long hard look at themselves.
I would have thought a mods primary function would be to keep the peace, not to decide what is right or wrong.
Thumbs down RantyDave.
However, that shouldn't stop us from having a good debate on the issue of legalisation of drugs.
That's all - I won't bother posting in a thread in PD, but this particular had my interest.
It is preferential to refrain from the utilisation of grandiose verbiage in the circumstance that your intellectualisation can be expressed using comparatively simplistic lexicological entities. (...such as the word fuck.)
Remember your humanity, and forget the rest. - Joseph Rotblat
Forum whore
As a previous heavy user of Cannabis I can attest to the validity of this post.
At the height of my usage well over 20grams a week was consumed, once I stopped the initial resulting [and often very confusing and frightening] mix of eupohoria and chronic want was mostly positive- I knew this was it, no more wasting hundreds of dollars a week and hopefully a far happier family life [just why my loving wife stayed with me is a head scratcher?]
6 months later I enrolled in Engineering courses. A limited degree of higher function was beginning to return and my short term memory had improved measurably.
6 months after that it was time to maximise my health and exercise my battered lungs.
I became high again [after consultation with my Doctor] I found that the THC was still present within the fat cells of my body and was now leaching out while exercising, this caused serious mental issues for me, misery for another two months while the THC left my body.
About a year after that questions arose over the strength of my marriage, after all I was smashed when I married Jackie and had been that way through virtually 15 years. Another round of mental anguish as I considered leaving her and my daughter.
That took probably 6 months to sort its self out.
6 years after giving up life is good, in fact its freekin' awesome. Being straight is the best high available.
At the height of my addiction contact with the Police would have, I am sure, resulted in criminalisation. At no point did I need the Police, what I really needed was Mental health services. I did not and could not receive that help without fear of prison time.
Thousands of fellow Kiwi's face the same dilemma under current law.
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