Bike Cop must have been low on quota

[homer]

not sure about the shoulder in the middle, but as Warlock has said, its legal to overtake on the rhs of a vehicle within the same lane... it is not legal to overtake on the lhs of a vehicle.

Stupid law, I'll be fucked if I'm going to put myself in more danger... Make it safer by making drivers aware they are supposed to stay left in the lane (that is a law that carries demerits).

What other option do I have eh? Sit in traffic? Yeh... you'd be scraping me off the road in short order you moron. I have had so many cars almost take me out because they didn't brake in time and I have swerved onto lane markers to give them space.

I feel for ya Warlock.

That would sound correct
you just cant pass on the left

you can also pass on double yellow lines ,so long as you do not go over them at all

but if cars move out the way for you and there coming towards you you will get pung for impeeding traffic , this can be imposed for anything that causes another vehicle to have to give room to you

[MaxB]

Good advice. Thanks.

Do you mean ride with dipped beam in daylight? My full beam maybe a bit too bright for that even in daylight.

This has been on another post recently.... it seems the cops have different interpretations of the law.... I was stopped and advised that lanesplitting was OK.... I have also passed cop cars whilst lanesplitting - no problem.

Specific advice given to me was as follows :

• Drive between Lane 2 and 3 where possible (counting from the left for the hard of thinking)
• Full beam on
• Right hand indicator on
• Watch your speed - if the cops think you are driving with excess speed you will be ticketed even if you are within the speed limit.
• If the traffic is moving at speed (say over 60kph) - don't lanesplit.
• Right hand shoulder riding is illegal.
• Left hand shoulder is Legal (But to be honest I doubt that and wouldnt do it anyway)

The main thing is to take it steady... watch for gaps left or right which cars can move in to (often without indicating). Also , watch out for trucks - you can get an angle on a car to get out of the way but trucks need a full lane and it halves you options for manouvre.If you ride to the conditions you have time to react to cars changing lanes etc....

Its a contentious issue - if the cop got out of bed the wrong side he could hand out tickets all day for this... I say... take it easy and if you are stopped make like a respectable chap, give the advice from a cop story.... save your derision for the "ticket robot" until he hands you the ticket...

Ride safe ...

[Mort]

Use full beam when lane splitting ......so car drivers can feel the heat on the back of their heads...

[Waxxa]

Challenge that ticket, man! The road code reads that this is a LEGAL passing manoeuvre - The Official New Zealand Road Code for Motorcyclists 2007 Pages 44 & 45 quote "You can pass at a No Passing Line if: 1. You stay on your side of the solid yellow line, and 2. You can see 100 metres of clear road in front of you for the whole time while you are passing, and 3. The lane is wide enough for two vehicles.

Passing on a three-laned road - If there is no solid yellow line on your side of the centre line, you may use the centre lane to pass as long as: 1. there are no vehicles in that lane, and 2. you can see 100 metres of clear road in front of you for the whole time while you are passing. Don't use the centre lane to pass if there is an oncoming vehicle in the centre lane."

The last one is for passing lanes going in the opposite direction, but I thought I'd insert that one too... I'm sure I've read something specifically about lane-splitting more specific than the first one though so I'll go have another look....

HTH,
M

Challenge that ticket, man! [quote] I was lucky Bik3rchik that I played 'Mr. Niceguy' and the copper only gave me a warning.

But man, what a confusing issue. I still continue to lane-split in heavy traffic otherwise no point having a bike in Auckland.

[Monkeyboy]

I was pulled over on the motorway a while back by a bike-cop and he gave me a warning that time, but you can only go down lines of traffic if that traffic has "stopped or stalled". If the traffic is moving, its a no-no!

This is what I always thought, if the traffic is stationary it isn't a problem. Going between traffic while it's moving is too risky, I just don't trust most car drivers, you're basically in someone's blind spot at any time during the manovere

[swbarnett]

This is what I always thought, if the traffic is stationary it isn't a problem. Going between traffic while it's moving is too risky, I just don't trust most car drivers, you're basically in someone's blind spot at any time during the manovere

I don't trust them either, I trust myself (to a point).

[discotex]

Use full beam when lane splitting ......so car drivers can feel the heat on the back of their heads...

Yep I have scientfically *cough cough* tested this.

Splitting with lights dipped:
- Heaps of people change lanes 2-5 cars ahead of you. Often that just means rolling off the gas but it's a pain nonetheless.
- Fair number of cars pull out just as you're about to get requiring heavy braking.
- Hardly anyone makes room for you.

Splitting with lights on high-beam:
- Hardly anyone changes lanes anywhere up ahead. When they do it's miles away.
- Very occasional last minute lane jumpers. Usually people talking on phone or applying makeup at the same time. Or HSV/FPV/SUV drivers.
- Lanes often part like moses and the red sea. THIS PROVES PEOPLE SEE YOU IN THEIR MIRRORS


I'm not a total wanker so when I move back into the traffic flow I flick the lights back to dip at the same time I turn my right indicator off.

[swbarnett]

- Heaps of people change lanes 2-5 cars ahead of you. Often that just means rolling off the gas but it's a pain nonetheless.
- Fair number of cars pull out just as you're about to get requiring heavy braking.
- Hardly anyone makes room for you.

This is starting to sound really strange to me. I lane split every day on the Northern motorway and I seldom have any problems. I can't remember the last time anyone even thought about moving in to my "lane".

[McJim]

I did it for a year and a half on the Southern - I did endeavour to keep to the left of the white line - most of the cars actually heard me and moved right thereby creating enough space to complete each maneouvre - I indicated right the whole time I was passing cars like this. When I had to move to the right of the lane I generally did it into a space thereby not passing a car on it's left.

Never got pulled up, never got warned, passed cops on bikes, cops in marked cars and cops in mufti.

[WarlockNZ]

Lets just be clear people ... because you seem to be getting a little worked up.

The offence was for "passing on the left where prohibited" that was $150.

Yes, i was on the right hand side of the line, hence, passing on the left ..

There are only 3 instances when you a "legally" allowed to pass on the left.

1. when the vehicle on the right is stationary.
2. When the vehicle on the right is indicating a right hand turn.
3. annnddd CRAP!! ... i can't remember ... ha ha

and after the officer was so kind to tell me and everything ... LOL

When you are lansplitting between the fast and middle lane or between the slow and middle lane, you are ONLY legal if.

1. you are on the left hand side of the white line while you pass a car. (impossible I know as all Auckland drivers hug the right hand side white line)
or
2. if you are on the right hand side of the white line and the cars on your right are not moving.

I was on the wrong side of the line and traffic was in motion... woops ... thats a $150 fine for passing on the left.

It was a fair cop.. it really was.

Over the last few days i have tried to "Split" within the law, damn!! ... am I scaring the shit out of some cage drivers or what, Imagine passing a car with inches to spare .. scares the crap out of me at times as well.

But that's the law and sometimes the law is not only an arse, but over zealously enforced as well.

[danchop]

i think most cops turn a blind eye to bikes lane splitting as long as they sense or see your confident about doing so and your speed is appropiate to the conditions,i ride all day every day in the traffic here in auckland and have clocked 43000kms today in 11 months soley within the city borders as a courier,never had a ticket yet and yes at some stage every day i do illegal things but the secret is to be a smart thinker when riding,only thing im shitted about are these new red light cameras coming in cause they get bikes as well

[titirangi]

Bugger - where did you hear about red light cameras? Any idea where they will be installed?

i think most cops turn a blind eye to bikes lane splitting as long as they sense or see your confident about doing so and your speed is appropiate to the conditions,i ride all day every day in the traffic here in auckland and have clocked 43000kms today in 11 months soley within the city borders as a courier,never had a ticket yet and yes at some stage every day i do illegal things but the secret is to be a smart thinker when riding,only thing im shitted about are these new red light cameras coming in cause they get bikes as well

[danchop]

only in the cbd it was on closeup last night but with the advent of demerit points for red light running you stand to lose your licence over it,theyre operating now but only on trial and you dont get ticketed till may,at one spot(cnr symonds street and k-road they snapped over 400 in a day)

[Sanx]

1. when the vehicle on the right is stationary.
2. When the vehicle on the right is indicating a right hand turn.
3. annnddd CRAP!! ... i can't remember ... ha ha

3. When instructed to by a Police Officer, I believe.

[Hellraiser]

i think most cops turn a blind eye to bikes lane splitting as long as they sense or see your confident about doing so and your speed is appropiate to the conditions,i ride all day every day in the traffic here in auckland and have clocked 43000kms today in 11 months soley within the city borders as a courier,never had a ticket yet and yes at some stage every day i do illegal things but the secret is to be a smart thinker when riding,only thing im shitted about are these new red light cameras coming in cause they get bikes as well

It does help that most of the cops know who the motorcycle couriers are and they give us a lot more lee-way than they would Mr Joe Average Motorcycle Rider.