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  1. #211
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    The OEM tyres are Bridgestone Dual Purpose (trailwings?). These are pretty much lethal when pushed in any conditions road/gravel/off road.
    You’d be better off with summat like a Pirelli MT21 or Conti TKC80’s.
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    Yep, they're both good, I'd maybe go for the MT21's if I was you. Much cheaper & much grippier offroad than the TKC80, not so good on the road & the back one won't last long, but you'll still have the stockers to swap back on for the more roady trips.

    I found when I was getting the hang of the 640 on gravel & offroad some fairly knobby rubber gave me heaps more confidence. As your skills develop you'll be happy on longer lasting, more road oriented rubber in many situations, but it's really nice to have plenty of traction when starting out.

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qkchk View Post
    Would a set of those Contis be worth buying and do they grip a wet road?

    For all-round mixed riding in all weathers, you can't beat 'em.
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    Spark Arrester.

    After hrs of engineering consultation, and CAD design in conjunction with Waikato University, I would like to present stage 1 design of the Scrambler Spark Arrester.
    It has been approved by the DIIC, (dept Irish ingenuity n cheapskateness)

    No pasta for me until I replace kanny's collinder.
    The depth of the arrester shall be improved, but I have always worked of the "first knuckle" principle with orifices, and it has been rewarding in the past, so I'm hoping it will also be ok this time.
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    You fullers in the north island not get Dunlop D606's? I reckon they are slightly better on road than the MT21's and every bit as good off road. Softer compound by my reckoning and they are much much cheaper than TKC80's.

    Cheers R
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    Quote Originally Posted by clint640 View Post
    Yep, they're both good, I'd maybe go for the MT21's if I was you. Much cheaper & much grippier offroad than the TKC80, not so good on the road & the back one won't last long, but you'll still have the stockers to swap back on for the more roady trips.

    I found when I was getting the hang of the 640 on gravel & offroad some fairly knobby rubber gave me heaps more confidence. As your skills develop you'll be happy on longer lasting, more road oriented rubber in many situations, but it's really nice to have plenty of traction when starting out.

    Cheers
    Clint

    On the 640 I use a TKC up front and a MT21 on the back - perfect...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qkchk View Post
    Well maybe that will be the selling point for us - Last thing I want is the tyres to let go while doing 100kph on tarmac......... and as long as the TKCs can handle dirt,gravel and clay it might give me a fighting chance.....
    TKC's are S Rated (112mph).




    I run them on my 950 and I can confirm that they are good for speeds in excess of 200km/h on seal and 180km/h (very briefly) on gravel...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tri boy View Post
    After hrs of engineering consultation, and CAD design in conjunction with Waikato University, I would like to present stage 1 design of the Scrambler Spark Arrester.
    It has been approved by the DIIC, (dept Irish ingenuity n cheapskateness)

    No pasta for me until I replace kanny's collinder.
    The depth of the arrester shall be improved, but I have always worked of the "first knuckle" principle with orifices, and it has been rewarding in the past, so I'm hoping it will also be ok this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    On the 640 I use a TKC up front and a MT21 on the back - perfect...
    Yep, I'll probably run that same combo as by late April I'll probably have a too good to throw away but too worn for the CCA MT70 on the back, so I might as well fit something a touch more grippy for the occasion.

    CooneyR, when I first started looking at tyres for the 640 ages ago, I think the D606's were lots more $$ than the similar MT21, I'll have to compare again, I might give one a try if the price is right.

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by clint640 View Post
    CooneyR, when I first started looking at tyres for the 640 ages ago, I think the D606's were lots more $$ than the similar MT21, I'll have to compare again, I might give one a try if the price is right.

    Cheers
    Clint
    I've never actually brought MT21's new so cant compare but the D606 are around $110ish front and $135ish rear (not fitted) here in Chch from Pit Lane.

    Cheers R
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    The TKC’s have unbelievable grip on the seal compared to either knobblies or dual purpose tyres . Essentially they’re made by putting soft sports compound robber in a ISDE knobbly mould.
    That explains the prices

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooneyr View Post
    the D606 are around $110ish front and $135ish rear (not fitted) here in Chch from Pit Lane.
    Biggest problem with the D606 is that the 130/90-18 size (OK for the 640E but a tad small for the 640A) isn't available in NZ. Dunno that the next size down, 120/90-18 would work. But the price was comparable to the MT21 IIRC; price didn't stop me purchasing, availability did.
    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by warewolf View Post
    Biggest problem with the D606 is that the 130/90-18 size (OK for the 640E but a tad small for the 640A) isn't available in NZ. Dunno that the next size down, 120/90-18 would work. But the price was comparable to the MT21 IIRC; price didn't stop me purchasing, availability did.
    As I've said before thats what ya get for owning exotica I'm curious why the 640E riders and others haven't tried the D606.

    Cheers R
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    Ive just ordered MT21s, being fitted tomorrow. A lot of the other tyres either wern't in stock, or not in the size I required (17 rear)- spent ages in the bikeshop going over the choices on the net, the Pirellis won on the day.
    Experience......something you get just after you needed it

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooneyr View Post
    As I've said before thats what ya get for owning exotica I'm curious why the 640E riders and others haven't tried the D606.

    Cheers R
    Basically 'cause I never seen one.

    Early on, I tried a Karoo on my LC4e, but it wore out so quick and cost so much I went right off the idea. Essentially, my latest combination of TKC front and MT21 rear is bloody great. I would also settle for MT21's both ends (but probably not go as silly on seal).

    My LC8 gets TKC's both ends.
    I figure it don't do to penny pinch when yer dealing with that sort of horse power...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooneyr View Post
    As I've said before thats what ya get for owning exotica
    Quote Originally Posted by sels1 View Post
    Ive just ordered MT21s, being fitted tomorrow. A lot of the other tyres either wern't in stock, or not in the size I required (17 rear).
    I think Motu said it a while back, no matter what size it is, when you ask Mr Partsguy about a dual purpose tyre, he's going to suck air through his teeth, scratch his head & comment on how "that's a bit of a funny size for one of those" ! Although generally there's more of the knobbier stuff around for the 18" & the roady patterns are more common for the 17"

    Cheers
    Clint

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