ST1100 and ST1300, What ya views?

[just plain happy]

I've been considering swapping my K75 for an ST1100 for some time. I've seen a few tatty imports at the grey dealers but never spoken to an actual owner.

Are there any hassles I need to look out for on these bikes?

I've read the exhaust is prone to rust, are the silencers good ol' mild steel or SS ?

This is a link to the ST1100 I traded in on a new ST1300 at Boyd Honda in Hamilton: http://www.motorcycletrader.co.nz/De...rcycletradernz
It is a great bike.... I'd spent over a grand a month before trading in... new metzlers, carbs balanced, and replaced a cracked alloy coolant pipe. The voltage regulator died and precipitated the trade in.... the plug that came out of it melted, so anyone buying would want to have a look-see and make sure that was replaced. Boyd's were great to deal with and I'd trust them. It has a non original screen that does not have the cateye cutouts. You can confirm this is our ex bike by asking if it has LED brake and signal lights added to the topbox. Trade in was $8k and it needed fixing, so they are not making a whole lot at the asking price, but may have room to move! It was NZ new, but odo is in miles not Km.

[RiderInBlack]

Well treated Blue Babe and myself Friday afternoon. Wanted to see what the Triumph Trophys were like ta ride 2-up and wanted ta see how ta compared ta the ST1300 and "Roxanne" (my CBR1000FL). I knew that Planet Honda had these 2 bikes in the shop so asked them nice if we could take them out for a spin.

Triumph Trophy: Took this out first. Riding height was a bit higher but still OK. Foot pegs were in a nice relaxed position for both me and Blue Babe. The bars looked like they were in a relaxed position for me, but right from the start it felt "heavy" for me (especially at the slower Town speeds). it was not long before my forearms were aching. Not good for the long rides I prefer. The bike felt too light and soft in the suspension, which did not lend me the feeling of confidence. This bike wanted me to ride slower. Great for "Cruising", but not good fa "playing" Shield position was "OK". Blue Babe did't feel she was going ta be "blown off" at legal speeds, but wasn't so good if we decide to "pick up the pace". The power was there, but ya could "use" it. Got the feeling the top for this bike would not be much past 200kpm, if that. Brakes felt they could have been better (recon "Old" "Rox's" were better). We enjoyed the ride, but dissappointing none the less. Triumph could have done so much better here, yet they never changed this bike from 1998 though to 2003.

ST1300 (2005-6): What can I say? everytime I hop on one of these, it is as if it was made for me and Blue Babe. Bars are sweet. Legs are too. "She" (the bike) seams to "sit low", but yet the lean angle is still good. Very stable at slow speeds, even 2-up. So much so, I was lane-splitting on a loaned bike in Whangarei(if ya have ridden around Whangarei ya know how little room there is to lane-split) Not something I wouldn't have tried on the Trumpie, even through the ST1300 was "fatter". The ST1300 just gave me heaps on confidence. Brakes were so f*cken good. Shield position was what ever ya wanted. Blue Babe was sweet at speeds that would have had her "gripping" tight on "Roxanne" (didn't get anywhere near that on the Triumpie). For such a "big" bike, I felt I could have kept pace with many of the "light" weights. Not bad for a "Tourer". Looks like I am going to have wait for one to come down ta my price range

[shafty]

Still tyre kicking Doug?????????????????

[RiderInBlack]

Still tyre kicking Doug?????????????????

yes. Not got the money yet ta get what I would like (getting there). Besides Planet Honda needed ta give those two bikes a bit of exercise

[GazzaRuney]

Two of the best ideas Honda ever had !!!!

[DingoZ]

???.. Any got any idea on what the service costs would be on a st1300 if services etc were only done at a shop. Not done by owner..

[DIN PELENDA]

got st1100 x police 1998 70000 kms ,top box,corbin seat,hated grips,new tires ,registred ,wof castom paintad in blue with spakles in paint job[ my owne job],visi bike indikators which stay on.... if you intrasted 7500$.I lowe that bike but for now im having fun on my 2003 R1 and im just not using st1100

[RiderInBlack]

Plenty of good ST1100's going cheap now, but have set my heart on ST1300's. Much superior bike IMHO from what I have tried so far. Better looking, adjustable blade and a dream ta ride (one or two-up). So am going ta hold out for a ST1300. I can wait.

PS: If ya PM'ing me ta sell me ya bike, please give more details and pic's would be helpfully

[KoroJ]

???.. Any got any idea on what the service costs would be on a st1300 if services etc were only done at a shop. Not done by owner..

Yep......but it's not something you want to dwell on.

[just plain happy]

???.. Any got any idea on what the service costs would be on a st1300 if services etc were only done at a shop. Not done by owner..

My ST 1300 being new the warrany demands the first few services are done by a honda dealer. The 6000km service was $210 : Change oil and filter, clean air cleaner, check diff oil, general check of all fluids etc. The labour content was $130. The 1200km check cost $214. oil change and filter, plus had em change the diff oil. Cleaned air filter and box.... general check over. Labour content was $108.

Hope this helps

I found a great web link for removing the fairings. It is straight forward and easy. It is an easy enough bike to do the basic maintenance on yourself, even for a novice.

[KoroJ]

Air Cleaner every 18K is $105 (I'm currently checking what's available in aftermarket recleanable ones) New set of tyres $650'ish fitted (They remove the right pipe to get the rear off & on), New set of 4 plugs at 23.50 ea (they have a lip so you must use the Honda item......and so on and so on.

[Hinny]

Plenty of good ST1100's going cheap now, but have set my heart on ST1300's. Much superior bike IMHO from what I have tried so far. Better looking, adjustable blade and a dream ta ride (one or two-up). So am going ta hold out for a ST1300. I can wait.

It is very easy to find stories of people trading their 1100s for a 1300 and then trading back again after a few thousand miles.
Smoother power delivery on the 1100 was one thing I remember.
I personally like the look of the older bike more than the new from every angle except the rear. The 1300 tail, like all the new Hondas, is impeccable.

Designed in Germany the brief for these bikes, I have read, was to be able to cruise Europe at 160kmh all day. I know 500km trips in NZ (Not highway riding.) at 100kmh av. speed are effortless.
US iron butt riders average in excess of 1600kms a day for 11 days on end. It takes a special bike, and rider, to be able to do that. One ST rider covered over 13,000 miles in 11 days.

They don't have the horsepower of the CBR1000 or the Yamaha FJR but will still run too fast for mere mortals and V4 power delivery is so smooth. And you don't need earplugs!

My advice is get an ST1100 and use it. Bountiful joy and happiness will flow.

[Hitcher]

And you don't need earplugs!

I don't wear earplugs because of engine noise. I wear them because of wind noise around the helmet. There's nothing worse from ringing ears at the end of a day's riding. I can't imagine a situation where I wouldn't wear earplugs whilst riding a motorcycle.

[Hinny]

I don't wear earplugs because of engine noise. I wear them because of wind noise around the helmet. There's nothing worse from ringing ears at the end of a day's riding. I can't imagine a situation where I wouldn't wear earplugs whilst riding a motorcycle.

Get a Shoei, tune your screen, stay under 130kms/hr.
How's that for imagination?.

[Hitcher]

Get a Shoei, tune your screen, stay under 130kms/hr.
How's that for imagination?.

An ST1300 is not like a Goldwing, a big Beemer or an Electroglide in that the screen does not stop air going past your helmet. While it gives a rider some protection from air flow, it doesn't remove you from it. Consequently there is helmet wind noise.

I have a Shoei. And an HJC. Neither is quieter than the other consistently in all conditions.

Wear earplugs.