Motorcyclist dead in Eskdale Rd Glenfield (21 March)

[Ixion]

Who in their right mind would buy a bike with no paper work? or accept a bike as payment for painting something? Bullshit!!

You don't normally get any paper work nowdays when you buy a bike, it gets posted to you later by LTSA. The days of "ownership papers" are long gone.

And in my younger days I OFTEN got paid in kind for jobs I did. Only once a complete bike, but other stuff often enough, stereos, parts, tools. It's called trade and it's been around for a good few thousand years. Rationale enough to say he "bought" the bike, even though he paid for it in kind.

As to running, there's more than a few here have ridden when disqualified , and would likely take to the hills if a cop looked their way. Not condoning it, or being on a dodgy bke, but none of that makes him the thief.

Interestingly no-one seems very interested in the actual thief, the guy who stole it.

[Steam]

You don't normally get any paper work nowdays when you buy a bike, it gets posted to you later by LTSA. The days of "ownership papers" are long gone.

um, I've been handed the Certificate of Registration papers by the seller for the four bikes I have bought in the past few years. It's got a New Owner form on the back, and the seller's name and address on it, and all the bike's details.

[YellowDog]

I have been told that any old idiot can apply for the documentation to any vehicle. It is not exactly a secure system.

We don't know the actual story however it all sounds a little far feched.

Probably not however severe enough to lose a life over.

[more_fasterer]

so dmw (who appears to know this guy) saying that he bought the bike the day before is wrong? she declared how she knew him - how did you?

Sorry, I need to clarify - Grim bought the bike with the pay he received for a painting job - the bike was not his payment. I've edited the original post to reflect this.

Interestingly no-one seems very interested in the actual thief, the guy who stole it.

Sad, but true. As Grim bought it with folding, it could prove very difficult to track the thief down.

[marty]

you know all this, yet no-one seems to know who he bought it from? appears awfully convenient doesn't it? who dropped hm at the vendors house? someone must have (i'm sure he didn't walk). or did he buy it from a pub carpark? how much did he pay for it?

[Steam]

I have news!

One of the fine members on here - Chrislost - was apparently one of the dudes at the "vigil" or party that got broken up by the cops.

He sent me a nice red bling that read: private message deleted by Jantar for this post here:

So you'd be one of these guys then?

...tribute notes have been tagged and spray-painted on the roadside and nearby lamp-posts and street signs...
... four mourners had been arrested ....
"... it's degenerated into loutish, offensive, disorderly, intoxicated behaviour."
People gathering and drinking at the site had blocked the footpath, intimidating residents...
...a man was arrested for breaching his bail after police broke up the gathering...
The group then moved to a nearby home and a party was broken up which ended in three disorder-related arrests.

Sad friends perhaps.
Stupid friends certainly.

Maybe he could explain the event clearly to us, as he was apparently friends with the dead guy.

[ynot slow]

He definately had a guilty conscience,about a) the bike? b)no license? c)what am i doing out this late?Answers to all of these will never be known,like the fact that his kids will never get to know their dad which is bloody sad,be he a brilliant dad or a prick,fact is they will never know.

As stated why do a runner? and as some are saying when the cops were going away from him,maybe if the cops were onto him he would run, why? again we'll never know.

When I bought my bike I got the rego off the picture in the site for sale,did check at post shop,sussed out the owner and inspected the bike,paid with folding stuff,and recieved ownership papers in due course.

Whether he knew it was hot is speculation.Quite a few people do jobs for payment in cash or goods,how many here do a perk for the ol' dozen beers?

[dmw]

wether the bike was stolen or the guy was a crim or not doesnt give the people gathering there the right to vandalise the wall with their childish scribbles

The wall that was vandalised had a great big hole in and sooner or later will have to be ripped down and a new one put up you can not repair a wall that is half missing, my kids have written on the wall and if I thought in anyway they were destroying anyones property I would take them up there and make them remove it, but it will have to be pulled down anyway so I do not see the harm the guy who lives behind the wall owns a bike and has been great about it all, he said he understands what people are going through

[sunhuntin]

whether the wall needs to be pulled down or not is no excuse for graffiti. is it ok to scribble on someones house, car or anything else just because it is beyond repair? besides, im betting that hole wasnt there before your "friend" went and made it. so now the owner has to pay to replace what likely was a perfectly ok fence, and has to deal with disrespectful [towards the fence owner] scribbles.

[swbarnett]

The wall that was vandalised had a great big hole in and sooner or later will have to be ripped down and a new one put up you can not repair a wall that is half missing, my kids have written on the wall and if I thought in anyway they were destroying anyones property I would take them up there and make them remove it, but it will have to be pulled down anyway so I do not see the harm the guy who lives behind the wall owns a bike and has been great about it all, he said he understands what people are going through

whether the wall needs to be pulled down or not is no excuse for graffiti. is it ok to scribble on someones house, car or anything else just because it is beyond repair? besides, im betting that hole wasnt there before your "friend" went and made it. so now the owner has to pay to replace what likely was a perfectly ok fence, and has to deal with disrespectful [towards the fence owner] scribbles.

Irrespective of what we think of the graffiti there are two important questions:

1. What does the owner of the fence think? Did they give their permission?

2. Did the council give permission for the graffiti on the surrounding lamp posts?

[Nasty]

Irrespective of what we think of the graffiti there are two important questions:

1. What does the owner of the fence think? Did they give their permission?

2. Did the council give permission for the graffiti on the surrounding lamp posts?

Answer question 2 - I work for a council and can pretty much assure you that they wouldn't give permission.

[swbarnett]

Answer question 2 - I work for a council and can pretty much assure you that they wouldn't give permission.

Exactly, there's no escaping this one.

[dmw]

Answer question 2 - I work for a council and can pretty much assure you that they wouldn't give permission.

The owner of the fence has today agreed to leave the fence up for six week for people to pay thier respects - it will then be torn down and replaced by insurance .

[sunhuntin]

i understand that properties on either side of the "holey" fence have also been written on. did they also say "yeh, sure, scribble on our fences to your hearts content"

[Nasty]

The owner of the fence has today agreed to leave the fence up for six week for people to pay thier respects - it will then be torn down and replaced by insurance .

Wow .. I am happy he can dictate that that is when the insurance will be finalised ... but the crap was written on the wall before now ... that is what was complained about previously ... but I am glad that your kids got to graffiti property while they had the chance to do it without having to face the law.