Fatal target fixation...

[Maha]

If only he could have his day all over again!....would it be different?
I doubt it, he was born a twat and died one.
Shame of it all, he took another life with him, makes him guilty of Manslaughter at the very least.
He took a calculated risk and it failed.
Fuckin' cool vid though!

[avgas]

Also, with the close shave just seconds earlier you'd think that would make you wake up and slow down...

Mabey we are looking at this wrong, mabey the first shave wasn't close enough.
I did kind of laugh though, he was leaning hard in the first corner and someone passed with very little lean on round the outside. That was it for me - first 30 seconds told me that this loser could not ride. Its a bummer about the crash - but at least the moron wasnt in his pickup instead.

[onearmedbandit]

He was doin fine til he tried to keep up with the bike that overtook him. You could see his revs pick up as soon as the other guy went past but he was lacking in roadcraft. An example of not riding at your own pace. Feel really sorry for the suzuki rider coming the other way.

I think you will find it was the Suzuki rider who was in the wrong.

[GaZBur]

He was doin fine til he tried to keep up with the bike that overtook him. You could see his revs pick up as soon as the other guy went past but he was lacking in roadcraft. An example of not riding at your own pace. Feel really sorry for the suzuki rider coming the other way.

EXACTLY.... And that is why if you hear anyone laughing at another riders chicken stripes you should smack the smirk off his face as it will only encourage people to go beyond thier limits as this guy obviously was. He had a camera rolling so he wanted to be impressive, I doubt any of us were impressed!
I really feel for the family of the other rider as I seen crashes from that point of view and it really ..... well you know!

[Aa7]

these vids make me feel so sick always. why the hell did he ride into and out of the incoming lane like a crack addict at the controls and then speed up once the other rider passed him i would like to see vids like this become a mandatory viewing session as part of the basic handling skills test, and again at the learners, restricted and full tests, along with vists to the spinal clinic and then maybe make them troll through ride to die dot com for a few minutes at each test too.

[swbarnett]

I think this is a case of double target fixation. The rider that is on the correct side of the road (the one without the camera) seems to have made no attempt to take evasive action. The lane to their right was free and clear, affording a viable escape root.

Also, without sound it's hard to say but a blast on the horn may have broken the other rider's target fixation. If ever I'm in a similar situation I always sound the horn in an attempt to have two drivers/riders trying to avoid a collision instead of just one.

I had exactly this situation over Easter weekend in the cage. Come round a blind corner to find some dickhead cage pulling out four cars down the road. I only avoided them by scrubbing off about 80kph and using the shoulder (they passed all four cars and pulled in just before the corner).

[dipshit]

I think you will find it was the Suzuki rider who was in the wrong.

How do you figure that?

It looks to me that it is one lane with a solid line in the direction the Yamaha is going, with two lanes separated by a broken line for the other direction.

[Mikkel]

I think this is a case of double target fixation. The rider that is on the correct side of the road (the one without the camera) seems to have made no attempt to take evasive action. The lane to their right was free and clear, affording a viable escape root.

Also, without sound it's hard to say but a blast on the horn may have broken the other rider's target fixation. If ever I'm in a similar situation I always sound the horn in an attempt to have two drivers/riders trying to avoid a collision instead of just one.

The guy on the Yamaha would have had all of the blink of an eye to react. If you check his line again you can see that he is starting to move right into the inner lane - bear in mind he would have been setting up for the corner. He has just come out of a right hander as well...

No amount of horn would have made a difference in this case. The last I can see of his speedo he's doing something like 130-140 km/h...

How do you figure than?

It looks to me that it is one lane with a solid line in the direction the Yamaha is going, with two lanes separated by a broken line for the other direction.

The camera is on the Suzuki - the Suzuki crosses the solid line and slams head on into the Yamaha which is travelling in the lefthand lane of two lanes.

Check it again, if you can not see it I suggest getting your eyes checked before getting on a bike or in a car...

[Balrog]

Be nice if people stayed on their side of the road eh.

+1

Its a simple concept that to many people don't seem to be able to grasp.

[dipshit]

The camera is on the Suzuki - the Suzuki crosses the solid line and slams head on into the Yamaha which is travelling in the lefthand lane of two lanes.

Are yes. Suzuki = camera bike.

[swbarnett]

The guy on the Yamaha would have had all of the blink of an eye to react.

Yes, a second or less according to the timing on the video.

If you check his line again you can see that he is starting to move right into the inner lane - bear in mind he would have been setting up for the corner. He has just come out of a right hander as well...

Missed the right hander. Still, it looks to me that he's running parallel to the dotted line and making no attempt to lean right. Hard to say for sure.

No amount of horn would have made a difference in this case.

This could well be true but it can't hurt (unless it's hard to reach, my wife has this problem because of short fingers).

The last I can see of his speedo he's doing something like 130-140 km/h...

All I can see is the glare. Although you can see it a little earlier and I'd concur as to the speed.


A question just occurred to me. If the Yamaha had been travelling so that they could've stopped in half their visibility would they have been able to at least avoid the Suzuki?

[Usarka]

you should ride on the assumptions a fast sportsbike is coming the other way.
that would save a few eh.

even though im not balls to the wall (read: slooooow) i always treat a corner like a mirror - that i'm coming the other way.

[PrincessBandit]

Sigh indeed. And I still can't believe after watching this that there will still be some out there in kbland who will still spout "htfu" etc. when others complain of dickhead riders like that amongst us. Anyone with even a modicum of honesty will acknowledge that there's an element who will risk their own (and others' lives) riding in the manner shown in that footage - and then think that because they didn't happen to die that day (or kill anyone else) that it makes it ok. Then when anyone has the gall to complain/criticise- especially if they were glorifying their stupidity - they go into overdrive about their prowess or launch into attacking the complainee. Good God, how many incidents like there must there be before people wake up to the reality that we don't live in our own little "invicibility ball" when we're out there on the road. If you can't separate reality from fantasy stay the hell off ya bike! (or stay the hell out of ya car whatever).

[Mike748]

A question just occurred to me. If the Yamaha had been travelling so that they could've stopped in half their visibility would they have been able to at least avoid the Suzuki?

I believe the rule you are referring to applies to single lane roads where oncoming traffic share your lane. For two lane roads you are supposed to be able to stop within the visible distance of your lane.

Or something like that.

[swbarnett]

I believe the rule you are referring to applies to single lane roads where oncoming traffic share your lane. For two lane roads you are supposed to be able to stop within the visible distance of your lane.

Or something like that.

I don't know if it's a rule but it's something I was taught.

The theory is that if you can stop in half your visibility (or at least the visible road) and some prick comes over a rise or round a bend in your lane you've got a reasonable chance of stopping before a collision occurs or at least a good chance of avoiding the other vehicle.

My wife and I have each had one incident where this technique may well have saved our lives.