View Poll Results: Your powerful bike will create you more trouble than it will get you out of.

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  • Yes - the extra power will create more pain than pleasure.

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  • NO - the extra power will save you more than it tries to kills you.

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Thread: Extra power = Safer bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    Of course if you ride a Harley the above scenario isn't a problem....

    yea they dont rev that high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McDuck View Post
    yea they dont rev that high.
    They don't even have a rev counter do they...just need to count the "thuds" in your head...

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    Used properly extra power means you can overtake without stress, quicker so keeping hazards to a minimum..with my SV I love the effortless grunt...you don't have to think hard about passing etc...unlike say a 250 or even some 600's...

    Yes in wrong hands dangerous but a 50cc is dangerous...

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    power equals safe riding

    go sit behind a logging truck at 100k on a wet day,
    abreast any ride that has low to medium power,
    enjoy the wonderfully clean spray envelope you will be in.
    If you have never experianced this, then dont comment on power needed.
    Power is not needed to take you to a terminal velocity of a jet fighter, its needed to keep you away from the crap that comes off the rear of vehicles On small to medium powered rides,you are forced to stay behind because your scooter is just plain slow.
    do you enjoy sitting in that turbulent air behind a bus?
    Is it fun to try and see ahead of that camper in front of you for potential hazzards?
    I like to be able to stay in the front of vehicles with a distance I control between me and what will stop me.
    Give me enough power to stay safe on the open road, now thats around 50+ IMHO.
    Town? nimbileness to avoid pedestrians on the footpath!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Subike View Post
    go sit behind a logging truck at 100k on a wet day,
    abreast any ride that has low to medium power,
    enjoy the wonderfully clean spray envelope you will be in.
    If you have never experianced this, then dont comment on power needed.
    Power is not needed to take you to a terminal velocity of a jet fighter, its needed to keep you away from the crap that comes off the rear of vehicles On small to medium powered rides,you are forced to stay behind because your scooter is just plain slow.
    do you enjoy sitting in that turbulent air behind a bus?
    Is it fun to try and see ahead of that camper in front of you for potential hazzards?
    I like to be able to stay in the front of vehicles with a distance I control between me and what will stop me.
    Give me enough power to stay safe on the open road, now thats around 50+ IMHO.
    Town? nimbileness to avoid pedestrians on the footpath!
    Hell, my old '76 550F has enough oomph to avoid those situations and has so for the 22 odd years I've owned it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subike View Post
    go sit behind a logging truck at 100k on a wet day,
    abreast any ride that has low to medium power,
    enjoy the wonderfully clean spray envelope you will be in.
    If you have never experianced this, then dont comment on power needed.
    Power is not needed to take you to a terminal velocity of a jet fighter, its needed to keep you away from the crap that comes off the rear of vehicles On small to medium powered rides,you are forced to stay behind because your scooter is just plain slow.
    do you enjoy sitting in that turbulent air behind a bus?
    Is it fun to try and see ahead of that camper in front of you for potential hazzards?
    I like to be able to stay in the front of vehicles with a distance I control between me and what will stop me.
    Give me enough power to stay safe on the open road, now thats around 50+ IMHO.
    Town? nimbileness to avoid pedestrians on the footpath!
    Agreed but its not really on topic, you cant say your in trouble when plodding behind a logging truck (apart from the odd 2 kilo chunk of bark headed for ya visor)
    Anyone who has done a few miles will tell ya, that power gives you the option of riding out of trouble in many different scenarios ! If some blind prick pulls out on ya and is about to t bone ya being just one example !

    Ask the trail riders how they feel on an underpowered bike, if they get into a powerslide ! And dont say that ya shouldnt be powersliding a road bike lol been there done that two up (and i was pillion) was pleased as punch when the bike had enough power to drag us out of trouble as i looked down at the ditch only feet away ! Speed was a factor in getting us in trouble, along with not knowing the roads, wrong line etc, but even a 250 could get up to that speed ! but then thats all ya would get !
    A girlfriend once asked " Why is it you seem to prefer to race, than spend time with me ?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon View Post
    Engine size = torque.. which your 600 has fuck all of.
    What he said! I like torque. Its nice to be able to just twist away and not worry bout down shifting. Mind you I have spent a bit of time on a 675 lately and that has a nice amount of torque.

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    Bigger bikes deliver the power needed in a much more instanteous and relaxed fashion than medium capacity bikes. I would suggest some of us get a kind masocistic pleasure ringing the guts out of smaller capacity machines

    I'm surprised no one has mentioned the pillion/gear haulling aspect.(Oops sinfull has)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon View Post
    Engine size = torque.. which your 600 has fuck all of.
    My old 600 has plenty enough grunt to get me out of trouble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonez View Post
    Bigger bikes deliver the power needed in a much more instanteous and relaxed fashion than medium capacity bikes. I would suggest some of us get a kind masocistic pleasure ringing the guts out of smaller capacity machines

    I'm surprised no one has mentioned the pillion/gear haulling aspect.
    Haha as ya do Bones as ya do, i got this great option on my one, called a rev limiter , tends to make ya a tad laps and give it full noise to the limit before changing up ( only in the first 5 gears though lol )
    A girlfriend once asked " Why is it you seem to prefer to race, than spend time with me ?"
    The answer was simple ! "I'll prolly get bored with racing too, once i've nailed it !"

    Bowls can wait !

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinfull View Post
    Haha as ya do Bones as ya do, i got this great option on my one, called a rev limiter , tends to make ya a tad laps and give it full noise to the limit before changing up ( only in the first 5 gears though lol )
    Tis tis.....

    With the GB only having around 145km top speed I generally avoid main state highways as much as possible if I can, but then you come across other hazards. Around town its proven its worth.

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    I personally think it should be law for everyone wanting to ride a bike to go to an approved riding school, for half the prangs out there has got to be inexperience. i dought that the percentage of machine failures or what the cc rating is will be the problem. once you develop a bad habit its darned hard to get out of it. as for more power, yes, it can get you out of trouble, but it can get you in a power of shit too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonez View Post
    Tis tis.....

    With the GB only having around 145km top speed I generally avoid main state highways as much as possible if I can, but then you come across other hazards. Around town its proven its worth.
    Yeah ya got to ride to the bikes limits, have a little in reserve so ya can ride out of trouble ! The less the top speed, the slower the shit happens but it happens nontheless !
    Have that problem with Heidi's 225 , has nothing in reserve at 100 k's, so that one could well be gone real soon !
    A girlfriend once asked " Why is it you seem to prefer to race, than spend time with me ?"
    The answer was simple ! "I'll prolly get bored with racing too, once i've nailed it !"

    Bowls can wait !

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    I think more power is safer to an extent. For example a GN250 is probably less safe than a 400cc motorcycle in a lot of situations. But in all the situations i have been in on my vfr400, or my old fzr400, i have never been in a situation where i have thought i have needed more power. I think to an inexperienced rider more power than a 400cc sportbike is going to be more dangerous, not safer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    Power is OK - but if you're doing 1,800rpm and 60kph when you need to open 'er up to get out of the way of a logging truck all the power in the world ain't going to help a lot if you're not ready for the hazard presented on front of you.

    Of course if you ride a Harley the above scenario isn't a problem....

    Is that because the logging truck is going faster than you are?
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