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    Running without lights?

    Here in the UK we can get a daytime MOT (our version of wof)
    Basically you can legally ride on the road with out any lights fitted
    (no headlight, tail light, brake light or indicators). the only legal stipulation is that
    a continuous sounding horn must be fitted (so no push bike rubber honk honk jobbies)
    I dont ride at night very often, if ever and was wondering if its possible to do the same in nz,
    i would like to remove all lights and fit race bodywork but will it get a wof and will it be legal?
    cheers
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    It is technically possible, but very difficult. Pretty much reserved for vintage vehicles that never had lights, and very strictly defined competition or 'special' vehicles.

    If you had a good reason you could probably do it (with a lot of trouble), but just not wanting to be bothered with lights wouldn't cut it.
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    My workmate has a 1942 WLA Harley in period set up, including blackout lights. This was first registered in NZ this year. He can ride it at night time.

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    I don't understand why you would want to?

    To me, it sounds a lot like suicide
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    to much messing about trying to replace them when you bin it.
    I dont see it as being any more dangerous than riding with your lights switched off during the day.
    The idea is that it wouldnt be ridden at night, now that would be silly

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    Quote Originally Posted by colsan1 View Post
    to much messing about trying to replace them when you bin it.
    I dont see it as being any more dangerous than riding with your lights switched off during the day.
    The idea is that it wouldnt be ridden at night, now that would be silly

    I am sorry but if you plan on binning why ride?

    Check out http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/rules/ ... but I think you will find they are not quite like the UK.

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    New laws coming may make it compulsary to have lights on at all times

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    Quote Originally Posted by .produKt View Post
    I don't understand why you would want to?

    To me, it sounds a lot like suicide
    I wouldnt be using it at night so i see it as no more dangerous
    than riding without your lights on, i dont see a problem at all

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    As far as i understand it you did not need a headlight but you must have indicators and a brake light.

    Ps. you're nuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colsan1 View Post
    I wouldnt be using it at night so i see it as no more dangerous
    than riding without your lights on, i dont see a problem at all
    during the day you're something like twice as visible with lights on, so why wouldn't you just leave them on permanently unless your electrics are screwed?

    probably the reasoning behind the new laws coming through.... bit silly though considering most new bikes have lights on whether you like it or not

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nasty View Post
    I am sorry but if you plan on binning why ride?
    No offence, but if that logic persisted, swing arm spools, crash bungs and (to extent) saftey gear sales would go down something righteous

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    I think that regularly riding in NZ without a brake light, headlight and indicators would see you being run down on general principal within the first 20 blocks around a city or less than 1000kms on the open road. Or do you really like all that hand signalling guff? Car, bus and truck drivers may be able tro get away with it but we're too vulnerable on bikes...and Kiwis like flashing lights.
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    etiquette? treat it like every other vehicle on the road, assume they are a blind, ignorant brainless cunt who is out to kill you, and ride accordingly

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    You need blinkers, horn, brake light (off front and rear brakes) and headlight (high beam not necessary).

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    at klast nordieboy has come up with a proper reply.
    It must be cultural thing but there is nothing wrong with running with a daytime only MOT (wof) in the uk.
    you can only ride during daylight hours and yes it would be stupid to do otherwise.
    When i go out on my bike i cannot remember the last time i used the headlight
    unless it was evening or night time.
    I didnt realise kiwi riders were such softies,
    oh well i guess i'll have to get myself a nice safe comfy town bike and some high vis safety gear when i arrive

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    I didnt realise kiwi riders were such softies,

    well ,,most of us take our riding very serious...
    anything to improve saferty is no..1
    you will find riding in NZ is probably a bit different to what you are used to
    BTW..calling us a pack of softies is probably not a good way to start..
    enjoy your ride

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