New Triumph goodies

**Big Dave** · 18th April 2008, 18:25

Was down at TNZ this morning and they were showing me the new range of arrow 'street legal' exhaust systems for speed triple right through to Thruxton and Scrambler.

Like the standard systems layout but much more compact. They look and sound great and are legal.

They also had a new speed triple 08 in the shed - Brembo brakes and some nice aesthetic touches added standard.

It should all be on the Triumph web site by now.

MD · 18th April 2008, 19:36

I see Motorad Wgtn have the 08 Spreed triple in. Burnt orange colour is very good and the new tappered handlebar is a nice touch.

They also have the EFI America and Speedmaster. They did a good job of making the EFI versions look just the same as the carbie ones. Takes a keen eye to spot the difference. Waiting to see what your KR report has to say about the EFI versions.

You have to wonder though what damage the 'rumours' of the big twin will do to sales of new 865cc twins? I wouldn't mind an America as a 2nd bike again. But, if I had the spare cash, I wouldn't bother knowing that the real
Mccoy was coming out soon..well 2009 anyway.

I've never been a fan of the Arrow pipes Triumph supported as a replacement for the Speed triple and Street Triple. They need to bring out more of their own after market pipes. The Triumph sports pipe that came with my Daytona 675 is awesome. It actually fits the cavity like it belongs, whereas the Arrows look like a cheap fix - lets ram a round peg into a triangular hole and hope no one notices. Ugly is as ugly does.

While on the subject of Triumph parts, I wish they would bring out an alternative frontend to the bug eyed headlights. I suspect more than a few buyers have walked away because of the love em or hate em twin bug eyes. A simple to attach or pre-order 'off the shelf ' alternative set up would open more sales at bugger all cost. Just my opinion, but I find the bug eyes are the only styling part of the naked triples that doesn't gel with me. They look even worse on the smaller Street triple.

Lets continue talking Triumph..since I'm drinking .

I've clocked up 15,000kms on the 675 and finally got my fav. Conti Sports fitted front and rear...transformed brill handly to brill + !!!
I have discovered another well kept secret about the triples...they are *%#&ing fantastic on tyres. I haven't had such long mileage out of sports tyres in ages on a bike. I would like to think that I have thrashed the shit out of the Daytona but the tyre life begs to differ.
9000km from the first front including a track day!
I'm on the second rear and the got 7500 odd Ks on each (2 track days). Bugger me. I remember the CBR1000RR eating tyres faster than I could write out the bloody cheques. The F800S wasn't much better, must be a twin engine thing.
The 675 is proving to be the most economical bike I've owned in ages. Cheap services, $211 for the 10k service, beat that. It refuses to wear out tyres and it doesn't have a drinking problem. Which is more than most of us can say.
Sorry, wandering off topic...Fridat night.. brandy.. gulp gulp ...

And Big Dave...I'm still expecting you to spill the beans as soon as you know some definites about the new big twin.

Cheers gulp gulp
Mark

**KiwiRat** · 18th April 2008, 19:38

Like this I assume?C'mon Dave, you know it aint real without photographic evidence...........

P/T

**Big Dave** · 18th April 2008, 19:42

>>Waiting to see what your KR report has to say about the EFI versions.<<

Yeah - have a test unit now - just running it in. Very smooth - very easy to ride and on the eye.

>>And Big Dave...I'm still expecting you to spill the beans as soon as you know some definites about the new big twin.<<

Nothing mentioned so far. Stonewall in fact.

Cheers.

**spookytooth** · 18th April 2008, 19:42

thats a nice looking Thruxton

**KiwiRat** · 18th April 2008, 19:45

Some oufit in Europe did the conversion. Gets you thinking, "How can I replicate that setup without getting a second mortgage?"

**Bonez** · 18th April 2008, 22:40

I've always thought there should be an all alloy wheel factory option for the twins. Pipe looks ok. What effect are the headers going to have on the oil cooling?

**KiwiRat** · 19th April 2008, 01:02

Originally Posted by Bonez

I've always thought there should be an all alloy wheel factory option for the twins. Pipe looks ok. What effect are the headers going to have on the oil cooling?

None, as long as you don't intend sitting in traffic for 5 or 6 hours.

The lubrication system is operated by a dual oil pump arrangement;the rear oil pump is the main lubrication pump and the front pump lubricates the input shaft/clutch assembly and circulates oil around the oil cooler.

The front pump collects oil from the sump via the pick-up strainer and feeds pressurised oi lalong an internal crankcase passage to the front of the barrels.
The oil is circulated around the passages on the outside of the cylinder bores then travels up the cylinder head stud bores to the cylinder head passages which are situated around the combustion chambers and exhaust ports. The oil cools the cylinder bores and head then exits the head through the drillings located directly above the exhaust ports.

From the cylinder head,the oil travels through the feed pipe to the top of the oil cooler.The oil then passes down through the oil cooler, where it is cooled by the passing airflow, and returns to the sump via the return pipe. As well as circulating oil around the oil cooler, the front pump also lubricates the transmission input shaft. The feed to the shaft is taken off the crankcase passage via the metal pipe on the base of the lower crankcase. The input shaft is both drilled through its entire length and cross-drilled. The drillings provide oil directly to the gears and bearings. Oil flowing through the centre of the shaft exits at the clutch end, providing oil to the clutch assembly.

Here endeth the lesson.

**KiwiRat** · 19th April 2008, 01:05

More to the point, how come that fat bitch Speedmaster gets a dual disc set up, and the Thruxton, which is the most performance oriented of the classic twins , has to make do with a single disc set up??

Sometimes life just aint fair I tell ya...................

**KiwiRat** · 19th April 2008, 01:06

More to the point, how come that fat bitch Speedmaster gets a dual disc set up, and the Thruxton, which is the most performance oriented of the classic twins , has to make do with a single disc set up??

Sometimes life just aint fair I tell ya...................

**Bonez** · 19th April 2008, 07:38

Originally Posted by KiwiRat

None, as long as you don't intend sitting in traffic for 5 or 6 hours.

Poor Aucklanders. I was refering to the close proximity of the headers to the oil cooler btw. Hinkely designed the headers the way they did for a reason.

Oh and I'll have mine in black, no suger and to go thanks.

**Big Dave** · 19th April 2008, 08:50

Originally Posted by KiwiRat

More to the point, how come that fat bitch Speedmaster gets a dual disc set up, and the Thruxton, which is the most performance oriented of the classic twins , has to make do with a single disc set up??

Sometimes life just aint fair I tell ya...................

Really it doesn't need them - It stops great anyway.

**tri boy** · 19th April 2008, 09:20

Originally Posted by Bonez

I've always thought there should be an all alloy wheel factory option for the twins. Pipe looks ok. What effect are the headers going to have on the oil cooling?

No problems Bonez. The Scrambler crosses it's left header in a similar fashion.
I havn't hooked a oil temp gauge up, but going by the state of the oil (at changes), alls good.

**Bonez** · 19th April 2008, 09:42

Originally Posted by Big Dave

Really it doesn't need them - It stops great anyway.

The thruxton has a bigger dia front disk too compared to the bonnies doesn't it?

**Bonez** · 19th April 2008, 09:47

Originally Posted by tri boy

No problems Bonez. The Scrambler crosses it's left header in a similar fashion.
I havn't hooked a oil temp gauge up, but going by the state of the oil (at changes), alls good.

Good to hear. I guess this is what potential buyers need to know. Not that I'm looking