Attempted motorcycle theft in Auckland

[jrandom]

Them that really can do the damage are the ones that don't talk about it.

Them that can really 'do the damage' are generally in prison because of it, sir. I frown upon the mild hint of admiration for violent criminals in your statement.

It's not a matter of 'can'. Virtually anyone is capable of performing a very large range of antisocial acts. Thank goodness it is just talk; I would have nothing to do with this forum if it were populated by the sort of individuals who would actually ignore the rules of civilisation in such a manner.

Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.
- Isaac Asimov

[Disco Dan]

Looks like because of the boundaries it does not look so bad - ie not many reports on the shore of bikes being stolen, though overall there has been a massive increase!

What can we do?

[ManDownUnder]

Them that can really 'do the damage' are generally in prison because of it, sir. I frown upon the mild hint of admiration for violent criminals in your statement.

...snippety snip...

Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.
- Isaac Asimov

You (understandibly) misread what I wrote.

There are those that walk among us wearing black belts, or have other experience and understanding of how to defuse a dangerous situation or, as that last resort, step up and efficiently neutralise the threat. My point is they're not the vocal ones, they have no need to be as they're not issuing the threats, rather resting secure in their own abilities.

I was merely attempting highlight the irony of those that resort to violence, threats and other standover tactics, those that are vocal and willing in their offers of violence are going to be the ones that come off very much worse for wear when they are outgunned by a far superior, yet modest opponent as is often the way.

I totally agree with Asimov, and by way of example share a favourite memory from a few years ago.

Sitting in the back of a car, a bit of a lad, we'd been blasting about town late at night as one is prone to do when young dumb ... etc. We'd stopped for food, and across the road there were two guys facing off. One had the boxing stance, physically threatening, stocky, and I'd say in bloody good shape from what I could see. The other guy was average/light build, standing, back to a corrigated iron wall try to talk the boxer down.

"You don't want to do that, can't we just walk away... etc etc etc".

A couple of punches were thrown, and I expected the smaller guy to cower or run and it'd be all on but no... he took a couple of body blows and continued to talk as reasonably as he could, a little more urgent of course - but FAR from panicked. Still saying he didn't want to do this it's not too late etc. A few more punches landed, the boxer moved in - was dazed by a spinning back-kick, grabbed collar and belt, head smacked into the wall and dropped.

Dealt with... whereupon the smaller guy proceeded to get help for his assailant.

THOSE are the people I refer to. Totally in keeping with what you say (if I read it right). Humility, control, perspective, and ability.

What's not to admire? They do walk among us, and I'm proud to call a couple of them friends

[jrandom]

I expected the smaller guy to cower or run... dazed by a spinning back-kick, grabbed collar and belt, head smacked into the wall and dropped.

Hooray! Just like in the movies.



Good thing the big guy didn't have a knife, and was a (probably drunken) idiot more intent on mouthing off than on getting the job of hurting the little guy over and done with.

What's not to admire?

If I were the little guy, I'd be taking a close look at the reasons why I ended up in that situation in the first place.

[Waxxa]

So what is the go with the thefts? Are these bastards trying to start the bike/steering lock by ramming a screwdriver into the ignition like they do cars?
It seems to me that if they can at least get the steering lock undone, then they can walk the bike into a waiting van and away.

Would a chain around the wheels deter the theives? (at least they cant walk away with the bike) there would then need to be a crew to pick up the bike and put it into a van. Will this preventive measure work? if so we all need to start chaining our bikes.

[slopster]

Cheers guys. Any ideas about where to look for a replacement ignition system would be appreciated. Would prefer to have matching ignition, tank filler and seat lock. Any offers of help to remove and replace the ignition would be appreciated too. I have no idea how it's going to be removed due to the position it's locked in. This might need to go to the bike shop and be an insurance job me thinks.

I had to take my ignition barrel out on my gsxr 750 with the steering lock on when I lost the key. You need to drop the forks out and remove the whole top clamp. You can take the whole top clamp with the ignition in it to a locksmith and they might be able to repair it.

[Morcs]

This seems to be a crisis now.

And locking our bikes etc.. is just defensive.

How about ideas for an offensive against these cunts.

Like baiting them. Leaving a bike, but little to their knowledge you are just out of sight. with a 3-0-fucking-8 pointed at them.

[Disco Dan]

This seems to be a crisis now.

And locking our bikes etc.. is just defensive.

How about ideas for an offensive against these cunts.

Like baiting them. Leaving a bike, but little to their knowledge you are just out of sight. with a 3-0-fucking-8 pointed at them.

cool. lets use your bike

[oldrider]

Its all very well for PC people like Isaac Asimov to condemn violence but there are occasions where violent reactions are the only type of reaction that some individuals will respond to, respect or even understand.

I am not ashamed to having reluctantly dished out some very effective "incompetence" at times where all else had failed.

Unfortunately I am not very good at it any more or would display a bit more "incompetence" toward some of these bloody bike thieves if I could catch them!

Bastards that they are! John.

[borg]

So what is the go with the thefts? Are these bastards trying to start the bike/steering lock by ramming a screwdriver into the ignition like they do cars?
It seems to me that if they can at least get the steering lock undone, then they can walk the bike into a waiting van and away.

Would a chain around the wheels deter the theives? (at least they cant walk away with the bike) there would then need to be a crew to pick up the bike and put it into a van. Will this preventive measure work? if so we all need to start chaining our bikes.

That seemed to be the intent. My thought is that had I used my disc alarm lock it may well have deterred them, and saved me the $180 its cost me for a replacement. That doesn't include time/labour. I'll definitely be using it every time at home and while out now.

From the technical perspective I don't know how feasible it is to do this. i.e. get the bike started even if the steering isn't locked. Perhaps someone with knowledge of how successful it is can tell us.

But the way I figured it, is that my steering was locked... what's the chances of the unit actually being able to start the bike after it's been that munted to get it to the unlocked position. Someone seemed to indicate that it's the way that you steal a bike, so perhaps it's more feasible than I think.

[borg]

Will this preventive measure work? if so we all need to start chaining our bikes.

This post is a bit scary.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...9&postcount=11

[borg]

I had to take my ignition barrel out on my gsxr 750 with the steering lock on when I lost the key. You need to drop the forks out and remove the whole top clamp. You can take the whole top clamp with the ignition in it to a locksmith and they might be able to repair it.

Thanks, and DAMN!

[Insanity_rules]

worst part is if they do catch him........he'll get a pat on the wrist, and if he has to pay anything it'll go to the gov and you won't see a cent for the damage.

They should hang bike thieves!

[Luckylegs]

...Im going outside and chaining myself to my bike.

If you stuck your dick through the rotor would that make it a.....

DISCo LOCK !

[borg]

If you stuck your dick through the rotor would that make it a.....

DISCo LOCK !

Isn't something as thin as spaghetti quite easy to break?

Well, my new ignition has arrived. Any offers of help me with a van, pickup truck or whatever and some muscle to get this thing home from the City would be much appreciated. Please PM me.