Pensioner hoons!

[Mikkel]

Actually, my fingers hovered over the keyboard as I debated whether to add the disclaimer that my comments did not necessarily apply to the use of said lubricants for anal intercourse, but then I decided that there was, after all, a limit to how far one could stretch tact and decency on the subject.

I should have guessed that you'd disagree.

Oh, I'm sure you could use anal lube for other activities than anal intercourse. After all, it's just a brand name... If you don't think so I sure as hell don't hope you have any baby oil sitting around at home.

Stretching is still the best way to remain flexible

[jrandom]

Stretching is still the best way to remain flexible

I'm not entirely sure that tact and decency are things which I wish to make flexible.

[Mikkel]

I'm not entirely sure that tact and decency are things which I wish to make flexible.

Well, they are both subjective - having a rigid interpretation of what constitutes right and wrong in any regard is certainly not a goal to strive for IMHO.

I.e. I believe it would not be tactful to derail this thread any further. We are already getting far enough from the subject matter.

[jrandom]

Well, they are both subjective - having a rigid interpretation of what constitutes right and wrong in any regard is certainly not a goal to strive for...

Absolutely disagreed. The grey zone of subjective morality is not all-encompassing.

I do love the way KB threads have a tendency to head into uncharted waters, though.

[Swoop]

like having a 5" nothing granny look at you suspiciously as you reach for the KY lube!

A 5" granny?

A five inch granny?????

That IS short. Somebody washed her in hot water, far too many times.

[Mikkel]

Absolutely disagreed. The grey zone of subjective morality is not all-encompassing.

I'm not entirely sure which part you disagree with. Whether they are subjective or whether a rigid mindset is indeed worth striving for.

Your so called grey zone is not encompassing at all... If anything it would be a sub-domain of objective morality.

The question is then, what constitutes objective and what constitutes subjective morality? Personally my I think that anything processed and formulated by a human mind can not possibly remain objective - there will always be a subjective influence. Consequently the distinction is to a large degree artificial.

I do love the way KB threads have a tendency to head into uncharted waters, though.

To boldly go... I'm afraid though that there are not that many 'waters' that haven't been charted by one discussion or the other already. If not on KB, then at least on a motorcycle forum.

[jrandom]

The question is then, what constitutes objective and what constitutes subjective morality? Personally my I think that anything processed and formulated by a human mind can not possibly remain objective - there will always be a subjective influence. Consequently the distinction is to a large degree artificial.

Stating that 'everything is subjective' is a cop-out when it's used to slide away from arguing a point.

IMHO, morality should be based on maximal promotion of certain aspects of the human condition in both processes and goals.

Of course, that has nothing to do with this thread.

I'm afraid though that there are not that many 'waters' that haven't been charted by one discussion or the other already. If not on KB, then at least on a motorcycle forum.

Perhaps I over-stretched the metaphor; I meant 'uncharted' as a departure from the expected direction of a discussion.

[007XX]

I'm not entirely sure that tact and decency are things which I wish to make flexible.

Well, they are both subjective - having a rigid interpretation of what constitutes right and wrong in any regard is certainly not a goal to strive for IMHO.

I.e. I believe it would not be tactful to derail this thread any further. We are already getting far enough from the subject matter.

If I hadn't met the both of you individually, I would have said you were one and the same person...

Can I be there when you finally meet?

[007XX]

A 5" granny?

A five inch granny?????
.

I should've caught that one...

[Swoop]

I should've caught that one...

Well someone has to moderate the moderators!

[Mikkel]

Stating that 'everything is subjective' is a cop-out when it's used to slide away from arguing a point.

Well, that's what YOU think

IMHO, morality should be based on maximal promotion of certain aspects of the human condition in both processes and goals.

I question whether morality is not just another tool used to push an agenda - or at least can be used as such. Certainly historical evidence suggests that this idea might hold some merit.

While I believe there is a necessity for some sorts of behaviour regulating mechanisms in any society, I will merely state that trying to define right and wrong too firmly is no more of a cop-out than playing the 'everything is subjective' card. There is a difference though - the 'everything is subjective' argument can not, as easily, be used as a tool to impose your own values and/or agenda upon others.

Perhaps I over-stretched the metaphor; I meant 'uncharted' as a departure from the expected direction of a discussion.

Ah, more along the lines of 'NO ONE expects the Spanish inquisition' then?

[Mikkel]

Can I be there when you finally meet?

If you make cointreau chocolate mousse and extend an invitation, you know where I'll be.

[007XX]

Well someone has to moderate the moderators!

Oh, aren't we feeling smug now eh?

Tell ya what though...I come from a long line of tiny, really feisty women with big boobs.

Genetics weren't so kind as to adorn me with huge hooters, but were lovely in lending me a reasonnable body height, and leaving me with a half decent back bone...

So....what don't you try to come and moderate me visio ut visio?

[martybabe]

Oh, aren't we feeling smug now eh?

Tell ya what though...I come from a long line of tiny, really feisty women with big boobs.

Genetics weren't so kind as to adorn me with huge hooters, but were lovely in lending me a reasonnable body height, and leaving me with a half decent back bone...

So....what don't you try to come and moderate me visio ut visio?

This threads useless without Pix. I genuinely don't know what thread I'm in.

Is it dicky birds with lube or old farts with dicks ? your all mad.

[Badjelly]

I believe it would not be tactful to derail this thread any further.

In light of your subsequent contributions, I'd say you're not very tactful.