The Power Crisis

[Steam]

Eh? Who is to blame?
Power companies?
Planning regulations?
The Guvvmint?
A simple lack of rain?
All of the above?
Jantar probably knows all the answers.

I'm not really concerned, it's not going to bother me much.

Anyway, this is the way I see it;
There's inadequate infrastructure in this country, not enough generation. We need more of something or other, hell, I dunno what. Nobody seems to be doing anything about it.
So I reckon we have to waste as much power as we can afford, to make such a terrible situation of rolling blackouts that someone is forced to do something soon, build more generation for the coming years.

Yeah! That'll solve it!

[BiK3RChiK]

Go Nuclear?

[oldrider]

There is enough generation capacity but there is not enough fuel of the acceptable variety for the Greens and the global warming (Kyoto) brigade! John.

[Ixion]

When I was a boy I (and my parents) lived in a house with no electricity, no running water, no sewerage connection. We survived well enough. I magine that I still can if needs be. It will all be a storm in a teacup.

[rainman]

When I was a boy I (and my parents) lived in a house with no electricity, no running water, no sewerage connection. We survived well enough. I magine that I still can if needs be. It will all be a storm in a teacup.

Bet you didn't have KB then.... Just think of the withdrawal symptoms

[CookMySock]

if they want us to try to cut back slightly on peak times, how is this related to lake levels ? The answer is, it aint.

The problem they have, is the grid can't supply these large peaks. Nothin to do with fucken lake levels. You're being social-engineered.

DB

[geoffm]

There hasn't been any major generating capacity added in NZ since the Clyde Dam. The population has increased 50% since then, plus more electrical demand.
Is it any real surprise?
G

[Ixion]

Bet you didn't have KB then.... Just think of the withdrawal symptoms

Didn't have solar cells either.

[Big Dan]

save power = turn Kb server off for 15% of the day

[Dave-]

is this the thing where facing power outages in winter (aka no heat) the south island will reduce its power consumption by 80% while the north island will reduce its power consumption by 5%?

[davereid]

POWER STATIONS DECOMISSIONED 1990-2008:
New Plymouth, 2007 (580 MW)
Stratford, 1999 (200 MW)
Marsden A, 1992 (114 MW)
Otahuhu A, 2002 (90 MW)
Whirinaki ‘a’, 2002 (216 MW)
Meremere, 1990 (133)

TOTAL DECOMISSIONED 1990-2008: (1333 MW)

Projects Abandoned/Delayed/Restricted due to Resource Management Act :

· Project Aqua, hydro (520 MW) - abandoned 2000-2004
· Marsden B, coal (320 MW) - abandoned 2007
· Wairau Valley, Marlborough, hydro (75 MW) - abandoned 2007
· Whanganui/Tongariro, hydro – Environment Court effectively reduced the Tongariro capacity by one-third due to the “mauri” of the Whanganui river …
· North Bank Tunnel, hydro (260MW) - delayed until at least 2016
· Makara, wind - reduced from 210 to 140MW in 2007
· Project Hayes, wind (150MW) - still in delay
· Te Uku Wind (72MW) - awaiting consents
· Te Waka Wind (111MW) - consent overturned by Environment Court in April, 2007

[rainman]

Didn't have solar cells either.

You must be a really old bugger then.

(/pedantic mode=off)

[RantyDave]

TOTAL DECOMISSIONED 1990-2008: (1333 MW)

ONE POINT TWENTY ONE GIGAWATTS!

ONE POINT TWENTY ONE GIGAWATTS!

I'll get me coat.

Dave

[klingon]

I have a gas stove (and a BBQ if needed) and lotsa candles. The biggest problem would be my tropical fish tank. Poor little fishies don't like the cold!

[BadCompany]

Shoot the greenies and bring on nuclear power. Its not the most future proof idea, but I hate tree huggers.