Singh family complaining about the police

[Maki]

Yup, another KBer that knows all the facts post event and what SHOULD have ben done at the time.

NZ Police need a data-bank of people like you that they can call on when some crisis event like this is 'going down' so they know what is the correct thing to do and precisley when to do it...

I don't know anything, beyond the fact that this could have been handled better. I also know that the police are not interested in investigating this and how they can improve in the future. That really says it all.

If I make a mistake I try to learn from it. If the NZ police makes a mistake they try to sweep it under the carpet and make excuses.

[scumdog]

I also know that the police are not interested in investigating this and how they can improve in the future.

Is this more knowledge to add to the databank???????

Like you really KNOW this? Amazing

[Forest]

Why am I not surprised to hear that there's a connection to the Kahuis ...

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/...ectid=10515890

[spudchucka]

I don't know anything.....

Sums it all up really.

[Maki]

Is this more knowledge to add to the databank???????

Like you really KNOW this? Amazing

This is just what the police said. They said they are not going to investigate. Are you telling me that they lied?

[enigma51]

Police screwed up again, and instead of admitting it and doing something to prevent it from happening again they say they did nothing wrong. It's just not good enough.

So what exactly would you like them to do for it to be good enough or are you one of those that just shout from the sideline.

Also if the cops screwed up what did the shooter to do ...... give them work?

[Maki]

So what exactly would you like them to do for it to be good enough or are you one of those that just shout from the sideline.

Also if the cops screwed up what did the shooter to do ...... give them work?

I already said so, but I will repeat it for your benefit. I would like them to admit that they could have done better, investigate what happened and try to learn something from it.

[Blossom]

and now they have just lost another family member. The father inlaw of the victim died after accidently being told of the shooting. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/...ectid=10515899
It's just an aweful situation and I really feel for this family.

[terbang]

Bitching about the fact that the cops took 25 min to get them?
Go to india or where ever you from and lets see how quickly the cops get to you and actually give a shit if you get shot or not.

Wondered how long it would be before this came up. They came from India, probably for many reasons, including the protection of a first world police force. They obviously were allowed to settle here and look like they were doing something worthwhile, set up a business and more than likely contributing to our society (taxes and so). Like most Indian immigrants, they seem to have got on with the job in a law abiding fashion and I don´t see any signs of bludging on the system. And yet yet there is a high chance that those arseholes that shot him, are locals and I´d put money on it they were on the dole and when caught will remain a burden on our society (free rent and an education at crime school).
Yup the cops have SOP´s that they have to follow and I don´t think that anyone disputes that, though perhaps they maybe erred too cautiously not allowing any human discretion. I can sure understand a family´s frustration at how long it took to get their family member, who was laid open by a gunshot, immediate medical care. I´d be bitching too and I´m a Kiwi.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Yup, another KBer that knows all the facts post event and what SHOULD have ben done at the time.

NZ Police need a data-bank of people like you that they can call on when some crisis event like this is 'going down' so they know what is the correct thing to do and precisley when to do it...

Thats why all police vehicles and all police personnel need to be armed all the time. I don't know why we as a society are such pussies about it.

I will personally buy one of those Remington riot guns and give it to the next pleecemin I see, with a shiny bow and a complementary box of shells.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I already said so, but I will repeat it for your benefit. I would like them to admit that they could have done better, investigate what happened and try to learn something from it.

Imagine you are the scene commander: you KNOW someone has been shot and is laying there bleeding, you are TOLD that the gunmen have fled the area, you HAVE a set of SOP's to follow which ensure your troops are as safe as they can be.

What you DON'T know is whether the people who shot the guy are in the area just begging for "Suicide by cop". In the immortal words of Dennis Hopper in Speed "What do you do?"

[enigma51]

Wondered how long it would be before this came up. They came from India, probably for many reasons, including the protection of a first world police force. They obviously were allowed to settle here and look like they were doing something worthwhile, set up a business and more than likely contributing to our society (taxes and so). Like most Indian immigrants, they seem to have got on with the job in a law abiding fashion and I don´t see any signs of bludging on the system. And yet yet there is a high chance that those arseholes that shot him, are locals and I´d put money on it they were on the dole and when caught will remain a burden on our society (free rent and an education at crime school).
Yup the cops have SOP´s that they have to follow and I don´t think that anyone disputes that, though perhaps they maybe erred too cautiously not allowing any human discretion. I can sure understand a family´s frustration at how long it took to get their family member, who was laid open by a gunshot, immediate medical care. I´d be bitching too and I´m a Kiwi.

I fully agree with you I would most probably complain as well but the thing that gets me about this case is that fact that its made out like the cops are at fault for him being shot.


As a society we as Foreigners and locals should not tolerate behaviour like this. Its not just the cops job to enforce a safe enviroment for us all its every individuals job to make sure that we dont tolerate things like this and get it sorted out.

Im not saying we should go out and be vigilanties but rather than getting pissed of with the cops and making out its there fault lets help the cops and get these bastard and remove them for our society.

[tgb_novice]

So what exactly would you like them to do for it to be good enough or are you one of those that just shout from the sideline.

Also if the cops screwed up what did the shooter to do ...... give them work?

So next time anyone who has any foreign ancestry has to go which ever country that they came from and test that scenario out before moaning and taking an issue with anything in this country!!

This country will sure have a lot less issues to deal with !

And no I am not condoning their actions but if what they say is correct wouldn't it make sense to just see if there is something that can be improved for all the rest of us, if ever we face such a horrible situation ?

Was my earlier post unclear / unreadable or something ? Did'nt that answer the question ?

[enigma51]

I already said so, but I will repeat it for your benefit. I would like them to admit that they could have done better, investigate what happened and try to learn something from it.

There is to much investigating and sitting around tables talking about shit and nothing gets implemented or fixed.

Its protocol for the cops to investigate cases and to learn from
So you havent realy come up with anything new.

[Qkchk:Me]

Let the shop owners keep tasers for self-defence. 3 reasons why.

1. If turned around and used on the shop keeper - low chance of being killed (unlike a baseball bat/hammer etc)
2. Easy to use and not permanent but strong enough to knock an offender to the ground or to scare them off.
3. Everyone should have the right to use self defense. (Even though we do - look where it gets us.)