Wire (cheese cutter) barriers

[Forest]

I've been doing quite a bit of driving around Victoria recently.

FWIW there's quite a lot of cheese-cutters over here. Particularly down the centre of freeways and dual carriage-ways.

I know that the NZ government is quite keen on emulating many of the Victorian road safety programs and initiatives. Could the cheese-cutters be a consequence of this?

[sunhuntin]

thats a good possibility...

i read or heard somewhere around xmas that a large number of last years accidents was caused by vehicles crossing the center line... whats the bet the whole country ends up being cheese cutted down the middle?

there is actually one corner i take twice daily where a large number of on-coming traffic cross the center line without need or reason. [im leaning left, so whatever hander that is... lol]
as a result of so many vehicles with 4 wheels coming onto my side, i cock it up just about every time... tend to flinch and move furthurt left, which stuffs the corner royally. that is one corner id love to see a short 'wall' erected on.

[swbarnett]

I've been doing quite a bit of driving around Victoria recently.

FWIW there's quite a lot of cheese-cutters over here. Particularly down the centre of freeways and dual carriage-ways.

I know that the NZ government is quite keen on emulating many of the Victorian road safety programs and initiatives. Could the cheese-cutters be a consequence of this?

This would make sense. We all know that NZ politicians can't think for themselves. Every initiative they try has to have failed elsewhere first.

[WelshWizard]

As so many countries are banning WRB they are a nock down price , after all all those manufacturers have to get rid of surplus stock, So sell it cheep, and the politician forget about people like Daniel who was cut in half by them, after all to them life is cheep its not one of them

[Brett]

I've been doing quite a bit of driving around Victoria recently.

FWIW there's quite a lot of cheese-cutters over here. Particularly down the centre of freeways and dual carriage-ways.

I know that the NZ government is quite keen on emulating many of the Victorian road safety programs and initiatives. Could the cheese-cutters be a consequence of this?

Yep. Sad to say it, but they were going up fast in Joberg through December.

[WelshWizard]

Just came across this,

"UK - Around 250 motorcyclists have protested against a police chief's decision to show photographs of a decapitated biker without his family's permission. The images of Mark Gibney, 40, were shown by North Wales Police chief constable Richard Brunstrom at a closed road safety briefing for journalists.

The force has apologised to the family and the Independent Police Complaints Commission is investigating the case.

Mr Gibney's family, from Merseyside, organised the Llandudno demonstration.

North Wales Police chief inspector Gary Ashton said: "The event appears to have passed off safely.

"We're fully aware of the nature of the protest. An IPCC investigation is still ongoing so we have no further comment to make at this time."

Motorcyclists gathered on the promenade on Saturday morning, for what they say would be a peaceful protest.

Some riders came from as far afield as Bournemouth and Fife in Scotland.

Mr Gibney's 42-year-old brother Paul, who is among those organising the event, is also a biker.

Last month, Mr Gibney's family met with the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) which is reviewing the case following a voluntary referral from the North Wales Police Authority.

At the time, the family's solicitor Paul Beck said the meeting had gone well and had been a chance for the relatives to express their feelings about the case.

Mr Gibney's father William, 64, said: "The family's heartbroken...I took it at the time but it took a long time to get over it and then this has made it, it's like 50 times worse than the original when it happened."

He said the ride was important as it was the family's only way of protesting.

"I think it will help a little bit of the hurt," he added.

Mr Gibney died in 2003 when his bike crashed on a bend on the B5105 between Cerrigydrudion and Ruthin in Denbighshire.

An image of his severed head lying on a grass verge was shown to journalists and council officials during a private road safety presentation by Mr Brunstrom on 26 April.

His headless torso was also shown as well as photographs of the bodies of two young men killed in a separate crash.

Afterwards, Mr Brunstrom claimed the pictures had been shown in confidence and accused some sections of the media of "distorting" the meeting. He also defended his actions saying he had shown the images to "give the context" of his anti-speeding campaign.

The force apologised to the family "for the distress caused by the publicity" but this was rejected by the relatives who announced they were taking legal advice.

They want the chief constable to quit or be sacked.

The decision to show the photographs has also attracted criticism from several politicians including Welsh Secretary Peter Hain who described it as: "completely unacceptable".

But writing in his weblog, Mr Brunstrom said those attending the anti-speeding briefing had seen images which would not be "released into the public domain."
Source vfr-race.com.

more info
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7114197.stm
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/Ne.../?&R=EPI-96933

[Pixie]

thats a good possibility...

i read or heard somewhere around xmas that a large number of last years accidents was caused by vehicles crossing the center line... whats the bet the whole country ends up being cheese cutted down the middle?

there is actually one corner i take twice daily where a large number of on-coming traffic cross the center line without need or reason. [im leaning left, so whatever hander that is... lol]
as a result of so many vehicles with 4 wheels coming onto my side, i cock it up just about every time... tend to flinch and move furthurt left, which stuffs the corner royally. that is one corner id love to see a short 'wall' erected on.

Why don't the police enforce the keep left rule?
It's worth 20 demerit points - theyd fill their quotas like shooting fish in a barrel.

Oh, sorry I forgot.
It's not exceeding the speed limit ,so it's not dangerous.

[Pixie]

Just came across this,

"UK - Around 250 motorcyclists have protested against a police chief's decision to show photographs of a decapitated biker without his family's permission. The images of Mark Gibney, 40, were shown by North Wales Police chief constable Richard Brunstrom at a closed road safety briefing for journalists.

The English bike press has the guts our feeble excuse for a press lacks.
From "Bike" magazine:

[Ixion]

In fairness their plod idiots are even bigger idiots than ours.

That particular idiot is certifially doo-lally.

[hayd3n]

I've seen these clips before, of them testing. For every other vehicle, I can see why they're so effective (even without this footage) and they're cheap, so it's going to be a hard battle since everything relates to 'majority rules' and sadly enough, we don't have such big numbers, altho ours should shout volumes over everything else.

Don't watch the clips if things are still raw, but this will show you what LTSA see, and why they see it. They're cheap, effective, and small, and do the job well. At the cost of.. well, we all know

would you like to see that done in a motorcycle, bus or a truck ???
i dont think it would show the same results

[yungatart]

You only have to see how the bits fly off those cars to imagine what happens to human flesh when it impacts these things.

[spookytooth]

I had not seem these things before this week so wondered what the fuss was about.Now having seen them for myself all i can say is fuck that for a joke.They gave me the shivers just riding along side them

[WelshWizard]

would you like to see that done in a motorcycle, bus or a truck ???
i dont think it would show the same results

You can see how the trick comes off as the link also shows them after you have played the link, the thing about the truck is the depth of penetration Southern Motorway No chance its a head on with oncoming

[hayd3n]

gee i post a messege and get a infraction :< name not mentioned

[motorbyclist]

You can see how the trick comes off as the link also shows them after you have played the link, the thing about the truck is the depth of penetration Southern Motorway No chance its a head on with oncoming

wait, i think i misread that

but you are aware that, just a few weeks after a rider was cut in half on the southern motorway, a truck crashed through the same stretch of barrier:

crossed the median, hit two oncoming cars and ended up in a tree on the other side.

total failure.

then there's this pleasant photo that get's most car drivers to change their opinion




in the areas further down SH1 the WRB are ON the double yellow line; they aren't preventing a head on in a accident, they're preventing dumbasses from passing when there's oncoming traffic and causing the accident, and causing endless frustration for those stuck behind a truck doing 80kph at 1am on a friday night