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    S/I cup rnd2 Teratonga

    Blardy hell, 1.5 weeks notice... yip Teretonga round two South Island Cup 15 June


    Whos Going... we are wouldnt miss it, Im unsure if there is a flying 1/4 this year if so Im in for that to, so to those in the running for the s/i cup pull finger theres shit to sort.
    cheers DD
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    C'mon ya wooses... whos gonna make the trip to the far south??
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    I'll be there, do you want a 1/4 mile cos I can arrange it if there is enough support?

    We must also have a flying 1/4 again one of these days...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maido View Post
    I'll be there, do you want a 1/4 mile cos I can arrange it if there is enough support?

    We must also have a flying 1/4 again one of these days...
    It was a flying 1/4 that we did 2yrs ago... this would be awesome to do again.
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    Ill be there and I would deffinetly be keen for a 1/4 mile, I could do with all the starting practice I could get.

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    Unfortunately there will be no 1/4 at the sth island cup
    probably at the following club day though (not sure of the date yet)

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    bummer... I woulda contemplated bringing the Buell down for the 1/4 mile for a laugh!
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    the mish that was the si cup rnd2

    Well, Im sure that Inver's does not have a sun, for some reason its forbidin to shine down there.
    Friday was spent prepairing to head south and if nothing else it was an excuese to have a day off.
    Saturday and we hit the road about half seven, stoping in at Scumdogs for a quick catch up, then on to Inver's for a feed beer and early night.

    Race day, Sunday ... glum and drab day but hay thats Invers for ya, the track was wet so the have a go day riders were sent out to dry it for us. Now it amazes me how they dont need leathers down there and in fact I seen a guy on a ZX10 come in with cordura only and his jacket was half way up his back exposing his flesh, but apart from a we bit of drizel the day stayed dry.

    Racing Cams, was a bit disapointing as there were only 7 bikes and the big bores and a TZ350 had it nailed from flag drop to checkered, hence the two lonely LC's came last. in the second race I decided to drop back and play with Rashika only to be laped by a GS1000 on the last turn, I forgot we were racing for points so I think I let Rashika cros the line before me, so yeah that was a last for me.
    The third race was a all in with F1-F3 and bears, 125GPer's The Ambo was needed to atend a big crash in Invers somwere hence the reason to bunch us all in, this was fun as it was a full field.

    Buckets... shit its a fast track fun on the MT replica full noise 90% of the time. We were running off the back of the 150SS crew 100m back and on the same flag drop, this was ok excpect for the learner SS riders almost being wiped out by the F4.

    I spoke with the Steward and cheif Marshel and they agred that it would be safer to have the slower SS riders behind us... but a certain PJ wasnt going to have this but as I said to him ya dont argue with the Boss of the track.

    On the dummy grid everyone was happy till PJ came up to me and said 'the Steward changed his mind it will be ran as the last race' Fuk me I had just breifed everyone about the changes... BUT hang on, I smelt a oyster... so I jumped of the bike and asked the cheif marshel if this was so... er NO he said, so we fuked around for 15mins trying to sort it on the dummy grid.
    After talking with the Steward it was found once again PJ was bullshiting like he does in order to get his way, I said fuk this and asked the slower riders where they want to be.. they said 'behind you bucket guys please'. well fuk me they do have a brain of there own... so the race started with a sorry arsed PJ, why do you do that man, that was the 2nd crap line you gave the 1st being that after breifing you were told that the buckets would go on a second flag drop when the SS bikes were half way round the sircuit... once again the Steward knew nothing of this.

    Well all that shit didnt help me enjoy the day and after the 1st race where two twat SS riders dident give the back markers a gap and went around us and the back markers one each side then conected on the last corner going down in a heap and oh so close to taking me out and others.. I went trail bike rideing in the mud drifting the MT and finely making it back on the track to have Tony Mc and the other F4 bikes passing me on the seal.
    The two CBR's were never seen well as breed race bikes they would be well out the front compeating with the 150 SS bikes, Diesel pig did bloody well as did Kevin Godard, that boy knows how to punt a FXR around that track.
    It was disipointing to only have 7 buckets on the grid composing of 2 CBR's 3 FXR's and DP with myeslf.
    After the racing we headed to Balcluther and crashed with Scumdog and CB, but 1st I went out on patrol with SD and checked out the pig den... and that is another story for another day.

    Monday ment the haul home in the fog... thats all folks.

    Pics to come.
    cheers DD
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    Good on ya,but with one thing & another soundz a tad dodgey at times...surprised they let folk in cordura out in non zip together gear,mind you they'll only need to fall once to learn a lesson Good effort Dan
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    Quote Originally Posted by puddytat View Post
    Good on ya,but with one thing & another soundz a tad dodgey at times...surprised they let folk in cordura out in non zip together gear,mind you they'll only need to fall once to learn a lesson Good effort Dan
    Who the hell is Dan?
    hey its Southland they are like in there own time warp, back 20yrs... very casual and stress free, not all bad really.
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    Steady on Dangerous

    I think you'd be best to get yoiur facts before saying I was bullshitting.
    Every word I said to you was FACT
    Fact 1) It was agreed and confirmed (later but before the first race) that the grid AND the start would be split. The Streetstock were to be around the loop before the Buckets were started. This is how split grids are managed elsewhere around the country, including the first round of the SI Cup. I had every reason to believe that arrangement would be honoured and was obviously horrified to find a full feild of bikes blasting through 3 or 4 near stationary bikes. TOTALLY WRONG AND DANGEROUS
    Fact 2) I went see the steward to ask for reinstatement of the original agreement for the next two races. He refused, no reasons given.
    Fact 3) He asked me to take the slow Streetsock out and behind the Buckets. I said I would not take the decision who who was "in" who was "out" I asked him to do it.
    Fact 3) The steward then went off and came back to me. He said he spoke to the buckets and that the later races will start as per the 1st, but that he had the assurance from the bucket riders that they would pass the slower Streetstock safely. I said I accepted his decision, but that it was dangerous and and an uneccesary risk given the simple was to split the start.

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    Hi all.
    Yes it was a shame that we could not have arranged a split start, much safer for all concerned. No one wants to spook new comers to the sport and clearly but regrettably this happened during this event.

    Might I make a suggestion which I guess only relates to the South Island Cup meetings. Motorcycling Canterbury and the Southland Club organise and run this series together (and a bloody great series it is well done to both clubs) perhaps they could decide on how the starts are to be handled for "split classes" such as buckets with street stock and F3 with 125. Believe me the F3 -125 start was a complete and utter cock up as well.

    I do not mean to offend anyone with my comments and my concern, which I am sure is the same as Oyster and Dangerous's is primarily for the safety and enjoyment of all concerned.

    Kevin Goddard

    PS Thanks for the comment re my riding Dangerous, I feel all warm inside now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyster View Post
    I think you'd be best to get yoiur facts before saying I was bullshitting.
    Every word I said to you was FACT
    Fact 1) It was agreed and confirmed (later but before the first race) that the grid AND the start would be split. The Streetstock were to be around the loop before the Buckets were started. This is how split grids are managed elsewhere around the country, including the first round of the SI Cup. I had every reason to believe that arrangement would be honoured and was obviously horrified to find a full feild of bikes blasting through 3 or 4 near stationary bikes. TOTALLY WRONG AND DANGEROUS
    Fact 2) I went see the steward to ask for reinstatement of the original agreement for the next two races. He refused, no reasons given.
    Fact 3) He asked me to take the slow Streetsock out and behind the Buckets. I said I would not take the decision who who was "in" who was "out" I asked him to do it.
    Fact 3) The steward then went off and came back to me. He said he spoke to the buckets and that the later races will start as per the 1st, but that he had the assurance from the bucket riders that they would pass the slower Streetstock safely. I said I accepted his decision, but that it was dangerous and and an uneccesary risk given the simple was to split the start.
    ummm maybe you were at a different meeting to me and D, but your "facts" are not correct.

    1.There was to be one flagdrop, buckets would start off the back of streetstock and we were quite a way back. Never a mention of 2 flagdrops to any competitors at riders briefing, nor later, nor did the Steward EVER mention wanting two flagdrops!

    2. Buckets started on flagdrop, only to have to take extremely evasive action after a second to avoid the back orange vested streetstock racers as they were completely stopped on the grid; which not only was scary for ALL of us, it completely fkd up our start as well (but that aint important in relation to the other issue)

    3. When speaking to the steward he was happy to have the slower riders after buckets, we all agreed including the forementioned riders... except YOU I recall. Why I really dont know?? The buckets were never the issue, it was the S/S bike that were STOPPED on the grid that were! Why do you seem to think we were at fault when we were just following the stewards instructions?
    The slower riders WANTED to be out of the initial onslaught. They know who they are... there is not slight against them, its a fact most people start out slow and get faster with confidence, having 1/2 dozen bikes race past them trying to avoid them is not very helpful. And I am bloody annoyed we were put in that situation because YOU decided to change/misinterprete the stewards instructions.

    4. The next races went fine, and all were happy.


    ...and just for the record, the buckets actually managed the same speed as quite a few of the streetstock, and faster than the slowest, so bear in mind that when we take off we really DO take off! At speeds initially comparable to S/S, and very quickly get caught up with the slower s/s bikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin G View Post
    Believe me the F3 -125 start was a complete and utter cock up as well.
    sorry, hope it wasn't me in that last mixed F3/125/Pre82 race... My throttle jammed open and I was a bit wary about dumping the clutch on the LC at 9500 revs... frigging bloody thing.
    Having said that, that last mixed race was by far the best for me, I had something to chase at last!
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    Nah it was the first F3-125 race I was referring to. They dropped the flag before all the F3 bikes were on the grid and then left us 125's sitting there whilst they waiting for the F3 bikes to come around again, man were they hot when we finally got away.

    Great weekend.

    Lets try and remember Oyster puts a huge amount of effort into the streetstock and I do not know all the facts re whay happened but i do respect the work he does and road racing would not be where it is today in the South Island without Oysters huge input. Oyster is always in my view looking out for the streetstock crew and is always trying to work in the best interests of the riders and the class and for that I say well done.

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