Some rather bad publicity on Dunedin Cheesecutter Ride/Helicopter fundraiser

[Kornholio]

he was doing at lest 100kph

He might be able to run really fast

[fatzx10r]

Did you witness the event?

didnt see him doing that, but im just up in front a bit. im sure if he was trying to push start his bike he wouldnt be doing it in the middle of sh1

[WelshWizard]

didnt see him doing that, but im just up in front a bit. im sure if he was trying to push start his bike he wouldnt be doing it in the middle of sh1

If you say you were doing 100kph then it must be, but it does seem strange that even the riders baggy jeans are not flapping back through wind speed.

[MSTRS:Me]

See there's another problem. We're breeding a mentality that expects praise for riding in a manner that should be seen as the norm.

(And I've already stated my praise for the organisation of, and the commitment to, the Rescue helicopter rides in another thread).

You'll catch more flies with honey, than with vinegar.

[scumdog]

Did you witness the event?

You would be stretching my credibility a tad by expecting me to beleive they were doing 10kph and that guy was just getting onto his bike after push-starting it just as the others rode off without taking any notice of him AND it all happening in the rain in the middle of SH1 with a car approaching from behind....

While the pic doesn't tell the whole story it does'nt make it look any good to the public that buy the paper..

[scumdog]

FFS Harden up you lot of frigging Nazis

That sort of riding isn't automatically dangerous

The road there is wide and straight with good sight distances

I dont have a problem with someone moving around while riding - watch any enduro rider and you'll see what I mean

Or are we going to be bolted directly to our perches and not allowed ever to let go the bars, stands on the pegs, scratch or arses?

What a bunch of girly blouses

:devil:

Don't tell US that.

Tell it to the public, the media and all those who DO perceive it to be 'dangerous'

HOWEVER I have reservations about the wiseness of doing it on a bald tyre (if true) and on a wet road with other traffic...

[skidMark]

He was just stretching his legs...

And who let carver onto the south island anyway.

[jrandom]

What a bunch of girly blouses

This isn't about debating whether standing on one side of the bike while riding in a straight line is 'dangerous' or not; it's about whether doing so on this occasion created a negative impression in the public eye.

Perception is reality.

[Mom]

This isn't about debating whether standing on one side of the bike while riding in a straight line is 'dangerous' or not; it's about whether doing so on this occasion created a negative impression in the public eye.

Perception is reality.

Thank you. It is indeed about perception. This was neither the time nor the place to rest your legs, have a stretch or push start your motorcycle at 100km/ph or what ever speed the ride was running at. I am picking there was more going on prior to that pic being taken for the person behind in the car to have gone to the trouble of taking it and sending it to the paper.

Very disappointing indeed, and not something that should have been considered an option in the situation. Alas, this is probably a young person, with an underdeveloped brain as far as thought processes go who made a bad decision to do what he was doing, thinking he got away with it, only to find himself the subject of a news article in the paper and a big discussion on here.

My hope he sees what a fool he was in that situation actually, and that he is not boasting to his mates about how cool he is! TUI anyone?

[MSTRS:Me]

The other thing to note is that despite the staggered positions he hasn't left much in the way of following distance. I know there is some fore-shortening in photos, but check rear tyre positions relative to the dotted lines.

[alanzs]

Quite the fancy trick. I would have thought those in Dunedin could do something a little more noteworthy than that. What an embarrassment to us all.

[JimO]

wasnt me........

[Patch]

first
It looks like the bike has just been push started,
second
Just because its a 100kph zone does not mean they were doing a 100kph.
third
when you look at the photo, it does not show any evidence of movement of the one takeing the photo, look at the lines on the road all reasonably clear, also the same can be said of the riders.
Forth
We all know the press wants the most they can get from any event even to the point of ignoring all facts.


So perhaps we need to find out what speed was he travelling at, had he just push started his bike, after all the weather was not the best and I remember a bike which had problems at Back fires funeral having to be push started, and a photo taken at the right angle could easily have made that look dangerous.

So lets find out all the fact and both sides of the story before lighting the witches fires please.

quite a good fucking point made here.

some are quick to blame 'cages' for assuming shit an yet, half this thread has done the same. Until someone steps up an says exactly what did happen . . . who the fuck cares.

It is only Dunedin, they'll only be getting the paper to light their fire, half them can't read any who

[doc]

Perception is reality.

Unfortunately getting those who ride bikes to behave is as one KB'r explained to me on a KB'r awareness ride. "Like trying to herd cat's"

[cowboyz]

FFS Harden up you lot of frigging Nazis

That sort of riding isn't automatically dangerous

The road there is wide and straight with good sight distances

I dont have a problem with someone moving around while riding - watch any enduro rider and you'll see what I mean

Or are we going to be bolted directly to our perches and not allowed ever to let go the bars, stands on the pegs, scratch or arses?

What a bunch of girly blouses

:devil:

They werent on a enduro ride. They were on a public ride to raise awareness for the safety of motorcycles. Not the way to change the image of bikers.

I said ages ago when organising the manawatu route that there will be no stunts (and there werent which is good) because one stunt (no matter how many times the action has been performed and how confident the rider is) will put negative light on publics perception. And that is exactly what has happened here.
I also said the only way to change the habits of the few is peer pressure. Lets hope some grow some and speek up to say this is unacceptable.

'cos I don't think it's actually dangerous

and 'cos you'se guys seem more worried about "the look"

Being dangerous or not is not the point. You are right about "the look". For one fucking day he could have considered the efforts of many and pulled his head in. Selfish has never been this high since the auckland motorway incidents.

wasnt me........

And neither was it hundreds of other riders who rode on that day. But look whats in the paper!