What is your solution to the gang violence of late?

**peasea** · 30th June 2008, 20:37

Exactly; get the young'uns on the right track and you won't have to deal with wayward adults. Well, not so many of 'em.

**alanzs** · 30th June 2008, 22:19

Send all the crims to an island far, far away in the vastness of the Pacific ocean. Like Australia.

**spudchucka** · 1st July 2008, 06:07

No gang members or their associates should receive any Govt paid benefit, housing or health care. Strip them of any assets gained through criminal activity and police the snot out of them until they conform to society's rules and then and only then assist them to reintegrate.

**svr** · 1st July 2008, 12:11

Providing protection and a way out / up for the kids has to be the priority - I can understand the `giving up' on the adults (i.e. `too hard' to reform, lets just punish) mentality.

**Patrick** · 1st July 2008, 19:27

Originally Posted by peasea

....soft sentences in soft cells, early parole, home d (where the perp's mates all come round for tea and biscuits anyway) .

I think you mean "P and hash biscuits..."

**peasea** · 1st July 2008, 20:31

Originally Posted by Patrick

I think you mean "P and hash biscuits..."

Thorry, spilling mishtake

**peasea** · 1st July 2008, 20:35

Originally Posted by spudchucka

No gang members or their associates should receive any Govt paid benefit, housing or health care. Strip them of any assets gained through criminal activity and police the snot out of them until they conform to society's rules and then and only then assist them to reintegrate.

Agreed, if the assets can be PROVEN to be ill-gotten gains. I've heard some horror stories about good being confiscated and to try and counter the claims is outlandishly expensive. I do go along with the theory though.

As for benefits? Can the lot, tomorrow, and get all bennies to re-apply under a more honest regime. (Where that will come from is anyone's guess.)

**peasea** · 1st July 2008, 20:38

Originally Posted by alanzs

Send all the crims to an island far, far away in the vastness of the Pacific ocean. Like Australia.

They did that hundreds of years ago; now look at it!

Somehow Australia is looking more appealing today , how's that for irony?

**Patrick** · 1st July 2008, 20:41

Originally Posted by peasea

Thorry, spilling mishtake

You pished again???

**geoffm** · 1st July 2008, 21:01

Why doesn't the tax department take an interest - worked for Al Capone...
When an unemployed, never employed 30yo layabout has a $35k Harley, how hard can it be to ask him where the moeny came from,a nd do a tax audit.
Remember the IRD do not require proof - mere assertion says you are guilty.

**avgas** · 1st July 2008, 21:15

i would send out 3 million envelops to NZ address with a note on the outside stating:

"DO NOT OPEN, CONTAINS HIGHLY POISONOUS SUBSTANCE THAT WILL KILL IMMEDIATELY!!!
Contains no money at all!!!"

Kill the stupid and curious all in 1 blow

**oldrider** · 1st July 2008, 21:28

Originally Posted by geoffm

Why doesn't the tax department take an interest - worked for Al Capone...
When an unemployed, never employed 30yo layabout has a $35k Harley, how hard can it be to ask him where the moeny came from,a nd do a tax audit.
Remember the IRD do not require proof - mere assertion says you are guilty.

How many of the gangs are set up as "Trusts" and the trusts own all their assets?

Maybe that would avoid any personal liability!

Legal aid is probably provided so that they get it right.

John.

**peasea** · 1st July 2008, 21:32

Originally Posted by Patrick

You pished again???

No, actually been doing a phone interview and now it's too late to get sloshed. Bugger.

And; the biker I was talking to wasn't even a gang member! 70-plus, (so don't take his bikes off him!) he rides BSA Lightning's and a Matchless (at 111kph-plus) .......... his brother has strong connections to Ginger Malloy etc, interesting biking kiwiana, so no, not pissed, just busy.