Got pulled over today

**Damantis** · 30th June 2008, 20:06

Originally Posted by skidMark

I used to ride everywhere on my zxr at 10k.

never got pulled up on it.

Scared plenty of small children tho.

Hahaha!

exactly! I'd ride round everywhere at 10,000 rpm too if the price of gas ever comes down

So, I guess the issue comes down to whether one appears to be showing off or racing another vehicle off the mark or something?
Grrrr

Next they'll make it an offence to have any kind of graphics on a vehicle cos that's seeking attention as well, Oh and no colourfull helmets, clothing, atermarket bits etc cos the fun police have decided that they know best

**bully** · 30th June 2008, 20:36

my friend was given the excessive accalaration line by the coppers, but he was on his back wheel, they expected a boy racer he lifted his helmet and were shocked to see he was 40, luckily he was let off.

**madandy** · 1st July 2008, 11:19

Originally Posted by marty

where's the pouting lip emo?

the "unneccessary display of acceleration" must be accompanied by an offence - it is not complete if you simply accelerate quickly to 50km/h then stay there.

22A Persons not to engage in unauthorised street or drag racing, or other related prohibited activities on roads

(1) A person must not operate a motor vehicle in a race, or in an unnecessary exhibition of speed or acceleration, on a road unless the operation of the vehicle in that manner is authorised by law.

(2) A person must not, without reasonable excuse, intentionally pour onto, place on, or allow to spill onto a road—

(a) any petrol, oil, or diesel fuel; or

(b) any other substance likely to cause a vehicle to undergo loss of traction.

(3) A person must not, without reasonable excuse, operate a motor vehicle on a road in a manner that causes the vehicle to undergo sustained loss of traction unless the operation of the vehicle in that manner is authorised by law.

(4) In this section and in section 96(9), the operation of a motor vehicle in a particular manner is authorised by law if,—

(a) in the case of a race or an exhibition of speed or acceleration,—

(i) the speed of the vehicle is within the applicable speed limit or speed limits; and

(ii) the vehicle operator does not contravene any enactment other than this section that applies in relation to the operation of the vehicle;

I other words cracking the throttle ain't enough unless you have illegally loud pipes, sustain a loss of traction, speed or perform some other atrocity...

**ManDownUnder** · 1st July 2008, 11:28

Originally Posted by marty

where's the pouting lip emo?

the "unneccessary display of acceleration" must be accompanied by an offence - it is not complete if you simply accelerate quickly to 50km/h then stay there.

(4) In this section and in section 96(9), the operation of a motor vehicle in a particular manner is authorised by law if,—

(a) in the case of a race or an exhibition of speed or acceleration,—

(i) the speed of the vehicle is within the applicable speed limit or speed limits; and

(ii) the vehicle operator does not contravene any enactment other than this section that applies in relation to the operation of the vehicle;

Hery Marty - what's the rest of Section 4 say - I see there's a clause "a" suggesting there is also clause "b" and possibly others...

**Ixion** · 1st July 2008, 11:42

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

Hery Marty - what's the rest of Section 4 say - I see there's a clause "a" suggesting there is also clause "b" and possibly others...

Nothing useful

In this section and in section 96(9), the operation of a motor vehicle in a particular manner is authorised by law if,—
(a) in the case of a race or an exhibition of speed or acceleration,—
(i) the speed of the vehicle is within the applicable speed limit or speed limits; and
(ii) the vehicle operator does not contravene any enactment other than this section that applies in relation to the operation of the vehicle; or

(b) the operation is conducted on a road that is closed for the purpose under section 319(h) or section 342 of the Local Government Act 1974, and is conducted in accordance with the conditions (if any) imposed under Schedule 10 of that Act; or

(c) the operation is otherwise authorised by or under an enactment other than this section.

**ManDownUnder** · 1st July 2008, 11:55

Originally Posted by Ixion

Nothing useful

Cheers Ix - so it sounds like the loud pipe was the issue then?

It also sounds like the "unneccessary display of acceleration" crime isn't worth a tin of beans - it's an add on that can be slapped on someone breaking another law, but not something anyone can be charged with in isolation...

Interesting... or did I misread that? So I can tap the RF open up to whatever speed limit, and so long as I'm safe on the bike (dangerous use...), not endangering others, within the speed limit and not too loud... all is ok...?

**n0regret5** · 1st July 2008, 12:15

oh yeh - on a cbr250rr as well. hah! i hadn't had a ticket for two years, ten i move down (from a fireblade) and get three in four months. got nicked after 'excessive acceleration' from some lights, hehe. bastards..:-)
haven't had one since though, that bike provokes you to be a manic bastard though eh!

**CookMySock** · 1st July 2008, 13:33

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

It also sounds like the "unneccessary display of acceleration" crime isn't worth a tin of beans - it's an add on that can be slapped on someone breaking another law, but not something anyone can be charged with in isolation...

Interesting... or did I misread that? So I can tap the RF open up to whatever speed limit, and so long as I'm safe on the bike (dangerous use...), not endangering others, within the speed limit and not too loud... all is ok...?

That is my interpretation as well. Another example of enforcing their opinion, rather than the law.

Canned answer after being stopped for this would be ;

"you will be unable to make that stick in a court of law, because there is no accompanying offence - under section blah-blah** of the law, unless you wanna pull one out of thin air, and we will defeat that also. ok? cool. ..and btw, quit stopping people for this or we will mobilise and take action against you. kthx. bye."

** what section exactly ?

DB

**ManDownUnder** · 1st July 2008, 13:43

Originally Posted by DangerousBastard

** what section exactly ?
DB

Section 22A , Subsection (4) of "The Land Transport (Unauthorised Street and Drag Racing) Amendment Act 2003."

It reads "In this section and in section 96(9), the operation of a motor vehicle in a particular manner is authorised by law if,—"

going on to subsection ...Section 22A , Subsection (4) (a) (ii) which qualifies the lawful use of a Motor Vehicle as
"the vehicle operator does not contravene any enactment other than this section that applies in relation to the operation of the vehicle; "

**Max Preload** · 1st July 2008, 16:40

Originally Posted by DangerousBastard

...unless you wanna pull one out of thin air, and we will defeat that also...

Don't give them ideas or challenges to duels that will cost them nothing and you a small fortune.

**Patrick** · 1st July 2008, 20:08

Originally Posted by DangerousBastard

Don't take your helmet or gloves off, and don't get off the bike. Visor-up only! If they chase you and stop you again, then top and SHOW them your drivers license (do not hand it to them) so they can verify your identity, then explain ONCE that you are leaving then leave.

If you are under 20, then this is likely to go down like a lead balloon. If you are an old cunt, probably it will work.

DB

Dangerous bastard advice here...

If you haven't supplied information/drivers licence, as in the above scenario, and then drive off, you will be arrested for failing to remain stopped.

Be a twat by not handing over the licence... Why? It can be inspected, front and rear. Still to see a biker produce a licence without removing gloves....

Suit yourself about the helmet, but it too can be inspected for the safety standard mark - refusal to produce for inspection costs too...

Noisy exhaust can cost $50 nowadays - plus 25 demerits.

Do the above "advice" and I bet the outcome originally spoken of would be quite the opposite.... Ummm... Writers cramp? Quota?

Sheesh...

**peasea** · 1st July 2008, 22:53

Originally Posted by Patrick

Dangerous bastard advice here...

If you haven't supplied information/drivers licence, as in the above scenario, and then drive off, you will be arrested for failing to remain stopped.

Be a twat by not handing over the licence... Why? It can be inspected, front and rear. Still to see a biker produce a licence without removing gloves....

Suit yourself about the helmet, but it too can be inspected for the safety standard mark - refusal to produce for inspection costs too...

Noisy exhaust can cost $50 nowadays - plus 25 demerits.

Do the above "advice" and I bet the outcome originally spoken of would be quite the opposite.... Ummm... Writers cramp? Quota?

Sheesh...

You got da powa!