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    Ducati NZ overpriced?

    Was just reading an article from a US Motorcycle magazine and they have the Ducati 848 listed at $12,995... now with the current exchanger rate that puts it at about $17,000 NZD.

    The cheapest I can find in New Zealand is $26,000. Even with GST added on the US price only comes to $19,000. Where is the other $7k going?
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    it'll be the usual story,supply vs demand,
    how many Duc's do they import here vs the states
    and most likely higher mark ups here due to lower volumes sold
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    Quote Originally Posted by R6_kid View Post
    Was just reading an article from a US Motorcycle magazine and they have the Ducati 848 listed at $12,995... now with the current exchanger rate that puts it at about $17,000 NZD.

    The cheapest I can find in New Zealand is $26,000. Even with GST added on the US price only comes to $19,000. Where is the other $7k going?
    shipping, storage, rates, paying the sales rep, guarantee, power, import costs, converting the headlight, registration...

    I know someone that imported his own bike and had to pay all this extra money for various stuff... and something was wrong with something (I can't remember what) and had to pay to get that fixed no guarantee and it ended up costing him more than through a dealer... but he got a cheap bike

    and what nallac said

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    $7000 of snob value.

    Cheap at twice the price!

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    Porsche's are half price too, for those who care....

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    yea, i wrote a letter to the importers in Australia about this back in '03 when I knew I was coming back to NZ. I couldn't believe the difference in prices between brand new in NZ and brand new in AU. I asked for a break out of the extra costs involved in getting the bikes to Unzud so I could see where the justification was for the huge mark-up...

    I'm still waiting for a reply.

    This is not a hit on Motomart and the like... I think they probably charge what they can to get by. I believe it'll be the Aussies that dictate the costs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justsomeguy View Post
    Porsche's are half price too, for those who care....
    Whats this Porsche you speak of

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    Quote Originally Posted by NighthawkNZ View Post
    shipping, storage, rates, paying the sales rep, guarantee, power, import costs, converting the headlight, registration...
    And they don't to do pay for the same stuff in the states?

    I think his complaint was that for a new one, the price difference seemed a little excessive. I don't think he was suggesting "Why don't I import my own?"

    Economy of scale can't really account for $7000 can it? And NZ Ducati == Australia Ducati. So in NZ I would think we would get a reasonable economy of scale in regards to the costs of getting a Ducati here.

    I maintain that snob value is what keeps the price high here in NZ. "Look at me! I spent heaps on my bike neener neener neener!! I'm fucking rich and better than you!!". In the US, all the bikes are cheap when compared to how much you are earning so the prices are less relevant. In suspect in the US Ducati would have struggled until recently because the 749 and 999 were so much slower on paper than the jappa 600s and 1000s.

    This is the inverse of Suzuki NZ's policy. Which is "Hey yeah, we just move the prices down in big jumps all the time to annoy those trying to sell their Suzuki. You knew it would happen, so don't get too upset". Which of course anyone who has purchased a new Suzuki and then thought about selling it will know.

    And before someone says "Oh secretly you want one you snivelling little poop!" . It's no secret, I do want one. Fantastic bikes, excellent to ride. Big goofy grin inducing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justsomeguy View Post
    Porsche's are half price too, for those who care....
    are latte's half price as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nallac View Post
    it'll be the usual story,supply vs demand,
    how many Duc's do they import here vs the states
    and most likely higher mark ups here due to lower volumes sold
    Right on the money. This applies to almost everything not just motorcycles and gear, the fact remains we are a small isolated country - things will always be relatively dearer here for a host of reasons including manufacturer/distributor/retailer margins, freight costs, compliance costs etc.
    It's also aggravated by the weakness of the US dollar at present.

    Plus I believe the Ducati's we get here are sourced from Australia now, so there are most likely additional costs involved in shipping them trans-Tasman.

    Don't forget if you import a bike it's not just the sticker price, there's crating costs (the metal and cardboard affairs that most bikes come in won't stand up to individual shipping, so a wooden crate is advisable), documentation fees, shipping cost, customs entry fees, MAF inspection etc etc then there's often compliance costs here as well if the bike comes from another market with different rules.

    Not to mention that you'll probably not get any good deals from your local dealer who has missed out on a sale.
    All in all, unless its something really unique that you can't find here and just have to have I doubt very much if the total saving long term is worth it.

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    Its all bikes, not just the Duc's. Brand new gixxer1000 k8 for US$10,400......I guess we just live in a far away place where if ya want it, ya gotta pay for it.

    Wouldnt want to live anywhere else though.

    and i DO know where there's a brand spanky 848 for under $25k

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    Quote Originally Posted by R6_kid View Post
    Even with GST added on the US price only comes to $19,000. Where is the other $7k going?
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    Someone's making money...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coyote View Post
    Someone's making money...
    Yup....its called business...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marknz View Post
    yea, i wrote a letter to the importers in Australia about this back in '03 when I knew I was coming back to NZ. I couldn't believe the difference in prices between brand new in NZ and brand new in AU. I asked for a break out of the extra costs involved in getting the bikes to Unzud so I could see where the justification was for the huge mark-up...

    I'm still waiting for a reply.

    This is not a hit on Motomart and the like... I think they probably charge what they can to get by. I believe it'll be the Aussies that dictate the costs.
    Hmm.. Bikes in Oz cost pretty much the same as that back in NZ?

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