New Zealand - The right to leave our country

[Skyryder]

Next thing they will be asking for an exemption for not having their photograph on their driving licence.



Skyryder

[cs363]

Well while we're on the subject, I got this email the other day, not endorsing it or otherwise, but it does make you stop and think on a couple of points:


Someone Finally Said It
(And it's long over-due.)
Proud To Be White

Someone finally said it
How many are actually paying attention to this?
There are African Americans,
Mexican Americans,
Asian Americans,
Arab Americans,
Native Americans, etc.
...And then there are just -
Americans.


You pass me on the street
and sneer in my direction.
You Call me 'White boy,'
'Cracker,' 'Honkey,'
'Whitey,' 'Caveman,'
... And that's OK.


But when I call you Nigger,
Kike, Towel head,
Sand-nigger, Camel Jockey,
Beaner, Gook, or Chink
... You call me a racist.


You say that whites commit a lot
of violence against you,
so why are the ghettos the most
dangerous places to live?


You have the United Negro College Fund.
You have Martin Luther King Day.
You have Black History Month.
You have Cesar Chavez Day.
You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi.
You Have Yom Hashoah.
You have the NAACP.
And you have BET.


If we had WET
(White Entertainment Television)
... We'd be racists.

If we had a White Pride Day
... You would call us racists.

If we had White History Month
... We'd be racists.

If we had any organization for only whites
to 'advance' OUR lives
... We'd be racists.

We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce,
a Black Chamber of Commerce,
and then we just have the plain
Chamber of Commerce.
Wonder who pays for that?

If we had a college fund that only gave
white students scholarships
... You know we'd be racists.

There are over 60 openly-proclaimed
Black-only Colleges in the US ,
yet if there were 'White-only Colleges'
... THAT would be a racist college.

In the Million Man March,
you believed that you were
marching for your race and rights.
If we marched for our race and rights,
... You would call us racists.

You are proud to be black,
brown, yellow and orange,
and you're not afraid to announce it.
But when we announce our white pride

... You call us racists.

You rob us,
carjack us,
and shoot at us.
But, when a white police officer
shoots a black gang member
or beats up a black drug-dealer
who is running from the LAW and
posing a threat to ALL of society
... You call him a racist.

I am proud.
... But, you call me a racist.

Why is it that only
whites
can be racists?

There is nothing improper about this e-mail.

Let's see which of you
are proud enough to send it on.

[MisterD]

and as for the redneck comment, I think you'll find it's not even nearly racist, just saying what needs to be said, if you can't handle it mate go cuddle back up in bed and make sure the cotton wool your covered in doesn't expose anything

Sometimes it is better to say nothing and risk appearing stupid, than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt...sorry can't remember who I should attribute that quote to

[firefighter]

Did you even read what you posted? What did you think that 'our Pledge' meant? Did you have to take some sort of pledge? I know I haven't.

And calling the New Zealand flag 'The Southern Cross' fits?

Saying that this country has 'In God We Trust' as a fucking motto fits?

Have you ever seen any God bollocks on the walls of public schools in this country?

I'll say it again, that American fundamentalist ranting has no place here.

Christianity has done just as much harm throughout history as Islam has. Probably more. Attempting to paint any religion as integral to the fabric of our society is offensive.



Perhaps because none of your associates have the mental capacity to read through to the end of that plagiarised rubbish and realise that it has nothing to do with New Zealand?

Yep and reading the out of context (ok it doesn't all fit pefect but so what?!)- arrogant crap your typing makes me really proud to be a kiwi, and for all those persons whose mental capacity your challenging, work in one of the hardest occupations in N.Z to get into, what the hell do you do that makes you think your so special?

[firefighter]

Sometimes it is better to say nothing and risk appearing stupid, than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt...sorry can't remember who I should attribute that quote to

Fair enough your completely right, was just trying to have a bit of an innocent rant! obviously was taken totally out of whack.

Jrandom feel free not to reply to my last post consider it retracted.

[jrandom]

ok it doesn't all fit pefect but so what?!

Y'know, I'm going to let kave speak for me here, because I couldn't put it any better myself:

I sincerely hope you are an immigrant, because I would be disgusted to learn that you are a product of the New Zealand educational system.

And...

Facism appears to be arriving in America, do we want to see the same in New Zealand.
We all know what the results of excessive nationalism have been in the past, why do some people continue trying to repeat these errors?

Quoted for truth, motherfucker.

for all those persons whose mental capacity your challenging, work in one of the hardest occupations in N.Z to get into

What an odd point to raise.

It's 'hard to get into', sir, because whilst every little boy wants to be a firefighter, we really only need a certain number of them.

It's not 'hard to get into' in the same sense as med school or the Auckland Uni engineering faculty.

And, let's face it, the job basically consists of running about bashing doors down and pointing hoses at things. Doing that for a living doesn't really reflect much on one's ability to comment intelligently on society.

what the hell do you do that makes you think your so special?

My statements stand on their own. I'll make no attempt to lend them weight by stating irrelevant facts about myself.

Edit:

Jrandom feel free not to reply to my last post consider it retracted.

Too late, but no worries, we'll leave it at that then.

Edit edit:

innocent rant

Just for the record, racism, bigotry and religious fundamentalism are never innocent.

That rant was poisonous and vile, and I thank you for retracting your objections to my response.

[Flatcap]

We all know what the results of excessive nationalism have been in the past, why do some people continue trying to repeat these errors?

There is "Nationalism" and "Excessive Nationalism"

One could argue that the current imperative to embrace foreign cultures is to the detriment of the national identity.

A rebalancing is required

[Ixion]

Example please.

Well, my ancestors gradually lost their language and most of their customs, replaced by those of the colonising race. Admittedly there was some assimilation in the other direction, but it was very one sided. All we are left with are a few places names and such.

Those Anglo-Saxons have a lot to answer for.

[jrandom]

One could argue that the current imperative to embrace foreign cultures is to the detriment of the national identity.

What imperative?

Seriously.

I haven't felt any imperative to embrace any 'foreign culture'. I make my own culture and live my own life.

I have two kids in primary school, and they're not experiencing any such imperative, either.

It seems to me that this country actually muddles along fairly well, all things considered, and that xenophobia is entirely unnecessary and unproductive.

[imdying]

Example please.

Easy to identify... usually by smell, typically it smells like curry or worse.

[jrandom]

Easy to identify... usually by smell, typically it smells like curry or worse.

'Worse' presumably being taro and boiled lamb flaps.

[MisterD]

One could argue that the current imperative to embrace foreign cultures is to the detriment of the national identity.

One would definitely argue that we need to wake up and stop saying "oh, that's ok then" just because it's someone's religious belief.

[Stormer]

Example please.

1-The 2nd paragraph of the first post
2-Areas of England
3-Areas of Australia

No countries have lost it all yet...was pointing out the end result if left unchecked.

[nodrog:Me]

.....so what if a muslim is allowed to wear her veil on the photo licence...it has a signature for identification purposes so easy for cop to identify.

but the bitch would have pulled her ripcord before signing her name

[98tls]

There is "Nationalism" and "Excessive Nationalism"

One could argue that the current imperative to embrace foreign cultures is to the detriment of the national identity.

A rebalancing is required

Lets start with driving lessons