Tui Ad.

[peasea]

When the reports of the assault came out what did our 'hero' do? Apologise straightaway to everyone involved? Hand himself into police? No, he went and saw a lawyer. He said nothing for days until a carefully prepared speech was read out to the media.

If the media reports are correct that says a lot about the type of man he is.

Man?
I see no man.
I see a bully, a twat and a prize cock but no 'man'.

[MaxB]

Man?
I see no man.
I see a bully, a twat and a prize cock but no 'man'.

Agreed.

A couple of years ago we had some real shitbags on our street. You name it they did it. Too much grog on the weekend and the older couple living there would get into it, she was as bad as him often fighting over nothing. Most times it ended up with the cops being called. Broken glass everywhere, fighting in the street, threats to the neigbours. At least we were not living next to them.

Then one day she showed up with a black eye, the cops were onto it in a flash and arrested him for 'male assaults female'. They took three van loads of party goers away that night. The woman refused to press charges but the nurse who treated her injuries reported it.

It turns out that you do not need the victim to come forward to get a prosecution. He got a very small jail sentence out of it but the main deal is that he is a convicted wife beater for ever.

That is what I would like to see happen to Veitch. No counselling bollocks, no 100k payoffs. He should be charged and if convicted do the time. Let the 12 jurors decide.

[peasea]

Agreed.

A couple of years ago we had some real shitbags on our street. You name it they did it. Too much grog on the weekend and the older couple living there would get into it, she was as bad as him often fighting over nothing. Most times it ended up with the cops being called. Broken glass everywhere, fighting in the street, threats to the neigbours. At least we were not living next to them.

Then one day she showed up with a black eye, the cops were onto it in a flash and arrested him for 'male assaults female'. They took three van loads of party goers away that night. The woman refused to press charges but the nurse who treated her injuries reported it.

It turns out that you do not need the victim to come forward to get a prosecution. He got a very small jail sentence out of it but the main deal is that he is a convicted wife beater for ever.

That is what I would like to see happen to Veitch. No counselling bollocks, no 100k payoffs. He should be charged and if convicted do the time. Let the 12 jurors decide.

It'll be interesting to see if that happens here. Some might arugue that it'll be 'trial by media' but frankly that's his problem. If you don't beat on your woman then you won't have any trial at all. As for 'compensation'; I'm willing to bet he tried to buy her silence and simply wanted it to all go away but it hasn't. He's been found out, good job. Furthermore, he should be charged not just with assault but also with perverting the course of justice (or similar)for trying to buy his way out of it.

[nodrog:Me]

.... he should be charged not just with assault but also with perverting the course of justice (or similar)for trying to buy his way out of it.

well in that case she should be charged too, she took the money, and from what i know she hasnt made any complaints to the justice system.

NZ is quick to get up in arms and try and help people who dont want help. how about forgetting about this celebrity case and spend all the time, money, and resources on all those victims of domestic violence that dont get any compensation and are crying out for help.

and money has been accepted for years to get out of criminal charges, heard of Micheal Jackson?

if he gets charged and convicted the most he will get would be an ankle braclet.

[The Pastor]

You have to treat your woman like you treat your creidt cards.


ROUGH!

[Skyryder]

Have not read all the posts on this but as to the thread title I find the Tui adds offensive. They are capitilising on a violent assault on a woman to sell a product that is well documanted for causing violence. If I was the woman concerned I'd be making a public statement that Veitch had been drinking Tui's at the time of the time of the assault. That would cause the company such embaressment that they would pull down the bill boards real fast.

On the subject of Veitches so called apology I find his utterences on this self serving. On one hand he accepts that he 'lashed out' "Yea right " (broke her back and put the woman in a wheel chair) then makes excuses that he was over worked etc. He's a fuckin low life..........period. Cunt needs locking up for life.


Skyryder. B Jackson

Don't usually put my name but will on this post.

[Winston001]

The woman refused to press charges but the nurse who treated her injuries reported it.

It turns out that you do not need the victim to come forward to get a prosecution. ...

Correct and a good point but we'll just have to wait and see. The woman in Veitch's case hasn't told her story to the police and until she does, she and he are the only two who know what really happened.

The hospital were told she fell down the stairs so medical evidence - which is private information - will be difficult to get.

Veitch hasn't confessed to anything except "lashing out" which could simply mean nasty words. No assault admitted to.

Still, I suspect there will be a lot of pressure on the police, and Veitch himself - so there could be a sequel in Court. However - Chris Kahui walked free.......

[Skyryder]

Correct and a good point but we'll just have to wait and see. The woman in Veitch's case hasn't told her story to the police and until she does, she and he are the only two who know what really happened.

The hospital were told she fell down the stairs so medical evidence - which is private information - will be difficult to get.

Veitch hasn't confessed to anything except "lashing out" which could simply mean nasty words. No assault admitted to.

Still, I suspect there will be a lot of pressure on the police, and Veitch himself - so there could be a sequel in Court. However - Chris Kahui walked free.......

I doubt if there will be any prosecution..........mainly for lack of witnesses.

If Veitches ex girlfriend has lied for her silence and accepted $100,000 for this she will be crucified in the cross.

Ralston said last night that he will not be back on TV. Which poses an enourmous problem for TVNZ in respect of Labour laws. Imagine the furore if Veitch is paid off.


Off topic this, but the Maori Party is still backing Fox in light of his violent offending against woman. No wonder the county is fucked of values. As a nation we don't have any consistancy on this any more. This shows itself in the Tuie Bill boards. Disgracefull.


Skyryder

[Patrick]

Now he's confessed the Police can.

Gaol? Nobody gets gaol for a first offence. Oh, and Te Harold's legal expert says his statement doesn't tick all the boxes to be considered a confession - so he obviously took some good advice in preparing it...

He didn't actually confess to much Skunk.. MisterD has it right...

a carefully prepared speech was read out to the media.

VERY carefully prepared.....

The woman refused to press charges but the nurse who treated her injuries reported it.... It turns out that you do not need the victim to come forward to get a prosecution....

Kind of right...

But the treatment providers haven't come forward, and probably can't - patient/doctor confidentiality type of thing. She "apparently" told them she fell down the stairs.... Unsure how the nurse did the above, but good on him/her.

Veitch hasn't confessed to anything except "lashing out" which could simply mean nasty words. No assault admitted to.

Still, I suspect there will be a lot of pressure on the police, and Veitch himself - so there could be a sequel in Court. However - Chris Kahui walked free.......

Beat me to it Winston...

Michael JACKSON, OJ SIMPSON and Chris KAHUI were innocent? YEAH... RIIIIIGGGHHHHHHTT.

[peasea]

well in that case she should be charged too, she took the money, and from what i know she hasnt made any complaints to the justice system.

NZ is quick to get up in arms and try and help people who dont want help. how about forgetting about this celebrity case and spend all the time, money, and resources on all those victims of domestic violence that dont get any compensation and are crying out for help.

and money has been accepted for years to get out of criminal charges, heard of Micheal Jackson?

if he gets charged and convicted the most he will get would be an ankle braclet.

Maybe she should be charged.

I don't see this as helping people who don't want help I see it as exposing domestic violence.

Just because people pay to get around the law doesn't make it right.

[peasea]

I doubt if there will be any prosecution..........mainly for lack of witnesses.

If Veitches ex girlfriend has lied for her silence and accepted $100,000 for this she will be crucified in the cross.

Ralston said last night that he will not be back on TV. Which poses an enourmous problem for TVNZ in respect of Labour laws. Imagine the furore if Veitch is paid off.


Off topic this, but the Maori Party is still backing Fox in light of his violent offending against woman. No wonder the county is fucked of values. As a nation we don't have any consistancy on this any more. This shows itself in the Tuie Bill boards. Disgracefull.


Skyryder

Quite right about the lack of consistency, no wonder the kids these days don't know which way to turn.

[peasea]

Michael JACKSON, OJ SIMPSON and Chris KAHUI were innocent? YEAH... RIIIIIGGGHHHHHHTT.

Now THERE'S a Tui ad!!!

[Maha]

Saw a Tui Billboard up this way today....it reads....

Kiwibikers know everything........

[peasea]

Saw a Tui Billboard up this way today....it reads....

Kiwibikers know everything........

I knew you'd say that.

[Patrick]

Maybe she should be charged.

With what? She "fell down the stairs" and "got $170,000 in compensation" (the amount seems to rise each time it is mentioned...).