Beliefs on the afterlife

[sels1]

Although the law of thermodynamics comes to mind, " energy is neither created nor destroyed but merely converted into another form" and we have electrical energy in our bodies but I believe when we die that leaks away to earth, maybe it ionizes the air and buzzes around the place ( there that should give a glimmer of hope to the "soul" crew )

I remember that as the Law of Conservation of Energy....4th form science I think..(too long ago)
Certainly the phsysical body decomposes and rots after death- we have seen the bones, but that bit of energy does, as you say, give some hope to the "soul crew',as you put it.
Could that be the soul/spirit/atman/etc that every religion refers to and every language has a word for in every culture since the dawn of time???
Christians say the soul goes to Heaven or Hell....depending on your deeds
The Buddists and the Hindus (a fair slice of the worlds population) believe in reincarnation, spending life after life learning and evolving, and suffering for misdeeds according to the Law of Karma.
"Death is inevitable for the living, birth is inevitable for the dead" it says in the 5000yr old Bhagavad Gita. Ancient wisdom or old rubbish??
I guess most of us will only find out when we kick the bucket.

But ponder this...to say something dosent exist, when you have absolutely no proof, scientific or otherwise, is an agument based on an absence of knowledge.
I prefer to keep an open mind.......

[sinfull]

Agree convincing reasoned arguments are good...and a good read often too. Nastiness and name calling are not.

BTW I don't believe in GOD

I remember that as the Law of Conservation of Energy....4th form science I think..(too long ago)
Certainly the phsysical body decomposes and rots after death- we have seen the bones, but that bit of energy does, as you say, give some hope to the "soul crew',as you put it.
Could that be the soul/spirit/atman/etc that every religion refers to and every language has a word for in every culture since the dawn of time???
Christians say the soul goes to Heaven or Hell....depending on your deeds
The Buddists and the Hindus (a fair slice of the worlds population) believe in reincarnation, spending life after life learning and evolving, and suffering for misdeeds according to the Law of Karma.
"Death is inevitable for the living, birth is inevitable for the dead" it says in the 5000yr old Bhagavad Gita. Ancient wisdom or old rubbish??
I guess most of us will only find out when we kick the bucket.

But ponder this...to say something dosent exist, when you have absolutely no proof, scientific or otherwise, is an agument based on an absence of knowledge.
I prefer to keep an open mind.......

I believe .... I will die !
I believe .... I have wasted too much time doing nothing !
I believe .... I will die with an open mind, but I will die none the less !
I believe .... I will make the most of what time i have left !
I believe .... I need no crutch !
I believe .... I will die before needing crutches !
I believe .... I know many who are afraid to die and will never trully live !
I believe .... I have 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours till i feel alive again !

[ynot slow]

Motto-live every day as if it is your last.
Sounds corny,but when your surgeon says after surgery,mate if you left that another month or so,you would be dead by xmas,this was in September,so good reminder of your mortality.4 1/2 years on woohoo.

[Marmoot]

Humans are so arrogant thinking that they have the best intellect and can explain/prove any theories or otherwise the theories do not hold true.

In reality, the odds of human understanding divine issues most likely to just be as big the odds of a particular ant deep in African jungle understanding grammatically-correct English language.

He may not believe in the existence of human beings, let alone one that speaks English, but that does not make humans non-existent. And when the two get to meet, good luck trying to appeal to the human and not get squashed.

Disbelieving something does not make it disappear, as much as believing something may not make something appear either.
But in the end, if there is God, I probably have a better chance of a million years of happiness than you.

Perhaps, religion is something of an insurance.

[Marmoot]

on the lighter side, my friend is a dyslexic and he always wonder whether there is a Dog

[vifferman]

I'm not telling you what I believe.

[rottiguy]

True, of course conversely to say something does exist despite any evidence, is also folly. I do have an open mind which is something people who have a belief can not have, and even if there is evidence which disproves their belief they can simply say that it is not true. Hence most people search for things which "prove" their beliefs instead of gathering all the information and deciding from there. Even more difficult to do if you have had a belief instilled in you as a child from your parents who have exposed you to their way of thinking from the day you were born. It takes a very strong personality to buck the trend and make an objective decision without being "tainted" by your upbringing.
Having had a non religious upbringing I can look at all the religions and assess them without any prior "colouring" to my glasses Although in saying that I may have been somewhat tainted by having a scientific upbringing which tends to make me want to be able to test out any hypothesis and perhaps I am a bit of a cynic where I can not just accept something because someone says that is the case.







But ponder this...to say something dosent exist, when you have absolutely no proof, scientific or otherwise, is an agument based on an absence of knowledge.
I prefer to keep an open mind.......[/QUOTE]

[rottiguy]

Insurance yes perhaps, I just don't like the premiums

Humans are so arrogant thinking that they have the best intellect and can explain/prove any theories or otherwise the theories do not hold true.

In reality, the odds of human understanding divine issues most likely to just be as big the odds of a particular ant deep in African jungle understanding grammatically-correct English language.

He may not believe in the existence of human beings, let alone one that speaks English, but that does not make humans non-existent. And when the two get to meet, good luck trying to appeal to the human and not get squashed.

Disbelieving something does not make it disappear, as much as believing something may not make something appear either.
But in the end, if there is God, I probably have a better chance of a million years of happiness than you.

Perhaps, religion is something of an insurance.

[Nagash]

Woo, a repost of Religious ravings without being required to read through 694 pages.

[Racey Rider]

....
Christians say the soul goes to Heaven or Hell....depending on your deeds
....

Slight Correction: Doesn't depend on good works or deeds.
Ephesians 2:8
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works....

[Ixion]

I'm not telling you what I believe.

That's OK I'm not believing what you tell me.

[rottiguy]

haha that is exactly what I was going to post or I'm not believing what I tell you

That's OK I'm not believing what you tell me.

[Gareth51]

putting together a convincing argument is ok.

There are too many in-consistancies to believe in god.

For instance, if something good happens, its gods will, if something bad happens, god works in mysterious ways

if you talk to god your sane, if he talks back your crazy.

You can take the most arbitory comment and say it is correct because god said so, i thought only mothers had reserved that right.

The whole idea that i am answerable to someone (thing) else is unacceptable to me. The whole idea that i should be grateful for shitty things that happen because i deserve to be tested doesnt sit well with me.

I will take my chances and be responsible for my own actions. If one day i do meet "the maker" then i will tell her (if god exists you know its a woman because a man would just come down and introduce himself, not sit up in heaven saying, you do whatever you want as long as it is what i want you to do but i am not telling you what to do but if you dont do what i want you to do then i will turn you into salt or something like that) everything she has been doing wrong and apply for the job.

well said my freind

[rottiguy]

yes there is a dog, and here he is

on the lighter side, my friend is a dyslexic and he always wonder whether there is a Dog

[Marmoot]

Insurance yes perhaps, I just don't like the premiums

As with insurance, better hope you don't screw up then....like, by dying?