Demerit points remaining after licence suspensions - how it works

[Storm]

But a truck usually wins the physics battle by virtue of being several tons heavier and the resulting ploughing of most objects is the result

[Mikkel]

But a truck usually wins the physics battle by virtue of being several tons heavier and the resulting ploughing of most objects is the result

Not my point - if a truck hits a tree, the truck looses...

Same goes for:

-Large rocks
-Power poles
-Bridges
-Other trucks
-Tanks
-Churches
-etc (pretty much anything solid you could consider bolted down.)

[sinfull]

But a truck usually wins the physics battle by virtue of being several tons heavier and the resulting ploughing of most objects is the result

Yeah several like in usually 39 odd ! still like the old long nose rigs ! its like a ford or holden compared to a suzki swift !~ Always a nice feeling having that extra steel tween you and the grille !

Ahhhh lovely day ! I think i might go out riding today, but the *to wheres* are endless ! Shame i have 3 or 5 ks in each direction b4 i get to a, as the crow flies road to the beach ! Bloody dogs missing my licence more n i am (LIER !!!!!)

[sinfull]

Not my point - if a truck hits a tree, the truck looses...

Same goes for:

-Large rocks
-Power poles
-Bridges
-Other trucks
-Tanks
-Churches
-etc (pretty much anything solid you could consider bolted down.)

Then add the 30 odd ton of physics still travelling at 90 k at the back of ya !

[avgas]

nice one - so it seems to me you can collect more than 100 points before they take the license off you. So when ever i go over 100 next i will try and set a record. i bet i could get 400 before they just plain arrest me.

[FJRider]

I think when you get a ticket, they check your demerit point status. Arrest may be sooner than you would like.....

[Mikkel]

I very much doubt they could do an arrest based upon demerit points - speeding in and of itself does not give a constable the power of arrest.

They might be able to suspend your license right then and there - whether you exceeded the limit by 41+ km/h or not.

[Morcs]

I've encountered some confusion on this subject, recently, so I thought I'd clarify this question once and for all for anyone who's interested.

I'm about to hand over my licence for three months after going over 100 points.

I received two new speeding tickets last weekend, and I wasn't sure whether paying them straight away would help anything. Naturally, I don't trust anything you bush-lawyer c00nts on the internet say, so I just rang LTNZ for a quick chat about how it all works.

The way the system goes is:

All demerit points recorded against your licence at the time it is taken from you are wiped when your licence is returned.

So, as recommended by the nice lady on the phone, I'll be paying both of those tickets this week before I hand over my licence to the licence collector man, and I'll have a zero-point licence back in my hands in October. If I paid the tickets after my licence was collected, the demerit points would be waiting for me when I got it back.

Good to know.

What if you get some tickets, and at the same time the license is taken?

Cos i got mine back with 35 freshies on it.

[jrandom]

What if you get some tickets, and at the same time the license is taken?

Then yer fucked, ain'tcha, because the licence is gone before you can pay the tickets and get the points recorded.

Also, the cops don't automatically take your licence off you if you get a ticket when you're over 100 points. I know, because one of the guys who ticketed me last weekend did a QP and commented that I was on 125 and should keep an eye open for the licence suspension guy knocking on my door.

They do, however check to see whether the licence collection has been referred over to them from LTNZ, and if so they will take your licence off you then and there.

Apparently that referral happens if the LTNZ collection man can't get it within four weeks of the suspension letter being issued.

You may occasionally get lucky and have a cop ticket you on the roadside without running a QP, in which case you'd escape being relieved of your licence even if collection thereof had already been referred to the cops.

The second ticket I got on the weekend went that way. It was fairly close to Dunkin Donuts closing time, so fair enough.

[Chrislost]

On the subject of no license....

I drive for a living and am reaching the magical 100 marker point. Anyone know what a work license costs?? Im being a good boy with my 75points but it dont take much... Ive been told not indicating can cost you 25!

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...imited+licence

you could try this.

[The Pastor]

However, I did think that the oldest demerits totalling +100ish were dropped off with a 3 month, but anything over that remained in force?

And that common misconception is why I posted this thread - LTNZ has just confirmed that you thought wrong.

So long as all outstanding tickets are paid up and recorded in the system by the time your licence is taken off you, you get it back with zero demerit points.

I had got the impression that this loophole had been patched recently to avoid people stalling the procedure and thus avoiding getting their license suspended.

I think that, now, the demerits are recorded as per the date on the ticket. I am however not 100% sure...

The loophole that allowed people to avoid a suspension has been patched.

The 'loophole' that allows people to get their licence back with zero points on it even after incurring tickets beyond the first 100 points has not been patched.

Is that even a 'loophole', per se? It makes good sense to me; once someone exceeds a certain threshhold, set the system in motion, give him a three-month walking holiday to cool down and then let him back out onto the road with a clean slate.

Anyway, I queried the LTNZ lady in precisely these terms and she confirmed that this is indeed the case.

Right.

Is that clear?

If anyone else skim-reads this thread and adds another 'But I thought...' post, I swear I will track them down and give them the atomic wedgie from hell.

They are wanting to fix this law - it will be updated with the new demerit laws (75 for running a red or having a radar dector). As it stands, its as its always been.

[Chrislost]

nice one - so it seems to me you can collect more than 100 points before they take the license off you. So when ever i go over 100 next i will try and set a record. i bet i could get 400 before they just plain arrest me.

you best be coming on a few thursday night rides and befriending ginger

[SPman]

Yes.

Betty will have a Beltronics STi on her when my licence is returned.

And when are they banning radar detectors..............?

[rphenix]

Bloody dogs missing my licence more n i am (LIER !!!!!)

Solution tie dog leash to your 24speed

[Mikkel]

They do, however check to see whether the licence collection has been referred over to them from LTNZ, and if so they will take your licence off you then and there.

Apparently that referral happens if the LTNZ collection man can't get it within four weeks of the suspension letter being issued.

I guess that wouldn't be too bad - of course a roadside suspension is always a hassle, but if you can dodge the collection fella long enough, the first infringement will tick away while you're walking. Then you'll only have to wait 21 months for the demerits to disappear

75 demerits for running the reds sounds fair - for having a radar detector, ridiculous!