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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dave View Post
    I hope I'm not being dense here.

    I get that fractional distillation is used to separate ethylene from petroleum like your link says.
    And I get that ethylene is used to make polyethylene, which I gather is just lots of ethylene molecules all joined up.
    And I get that cracking is the process of breaking up big long polymer chains into little itty bitty molecules, like Jrandom's link says. Sort of.
    And I get that somehow putting this polyethylene toothbrush into petrol must be getting this cracking thing to occur.

    But I still don't really get what you mean by feeding it down its own food chain.
    My bike doesn't leak oil; it marks its territory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruisin' Craig View Post
    I don't think I understand.
    Yes he was a bit obtuse...

    Dave is pointing out that petrol and plastic are pretty closely linked and when they get together, unless there are bonds preventing it, they mix. Dissolve.

    You grab a gollup of heavy oil out of the ground, its so thick depending on where you get it, it needs heated pipes to move it. That's because one of the many constituents of oil is black tar.

    This also explains why "light" oils sell at a higher per barrel price eg. Brent Crude is good, West Texas Intermediate a bit heavier but good too.

    The oil then goes to a "cracker" which is a distillation tower in a refinery. The oil is heated and breaks down into various types of hydrocarbons which are distilled off.

    The type of oil, its sulpher content, and the type of catalyst used determines the final percentages of product. Suffice to say that a barrel of oil does not equal a barrel of petrol - more like half. Here is a breakdown.

    47% gasoline for use in automobiles

    23% heating oil and diesel fuel

    18% other products, which includes petrochemical feedstock—products derived from petroleum principally for the manufacturing of chemicals, synthetic rubber and plastics

    10% jet fuel

    4% propane

    3% asphalt













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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruisin' Craig View Post
    I hope I'm not being dense here.
    Nope. Badly transmitted data this end.
    Wot Winston said.

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    so could my bike run on plastic then??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kornholio View Post
    so could my bike run on plastic then??

    No, but since your bike is mainly made of plastic you might not be able to tell the bike from the fuel...
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    No, but since your bike is mainly made of plastic you might not be able to tell the bike from the fuel...
    The fuel tank is actually the bike... actually
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kornholio View Post
    The fuel tank is actually the bike... actually
    So... it will end up devouring itself??
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    So... it will end up devouring itself??

    Horace
    Much to his Mum and Dad's dismay
    Horace ate himself one day.
    He didn't stop to say his grace,
    He just sat down and ate his face.
    "We can't have this his Dad declared,
    "If that lad's ate, he should be shared."
    But even as he spoke they saw
    Horace eating more and more:
    First his legs and then his thighs,
    His arms, his nose, his hair, his eyes...
    "Stop him someone!" Mother cried
    "Those eyeballs would be better fried!"
    But all too late, for they were gone,
    And he had started on his dong...
    "Oh! foolish child!" the father mourns
    "You could have deep-fried that with prawns,
    Some parsley and some tartar sauce..."
    But H. was on his second course:
    His liver and his lights and lung,
    His ears, his neck, his chin, his tongue;
    "To think I raised him from the cot
    And now he's going to scoff the lot!"
    His Mother cried: "What shall we do?
    What's left won't even make a stew..."
    And as she wept, her son was seen
    To eat his head, his heart, his spleen.
    And there he lay: a boy no more,
    Just a stomach, on the floor...
    None the less, since it was his
    They ate it – that's what haggis is.


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    From this link http://www.factmonster.com/ce6/sci/A0817790.html

    Ethylene is colorless, has a faint odor, and has a slightly sweet taste
    All I want to know is who actually goes around tasting this stuff ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dave View Post
    Horace
    Much to his Mum and Dad's dismay
    Horace ate himself one day......


    Is it just me that finds that whole rhyme a little disturbing??
    My bike doesn't leak oil; it marks its territory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruisin' Craig View Post
    Is it just me that finds that whole rhyme a little disturbing??
    Um ....... yep, sure I do .......
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    Pump gas will eat most plastic and pretty quickly because a major part of it is an industrial solvent called either Toluol or Toluene. Av gas either has none or very little and doesn't cause the same problem and so is good for cleaning stuff and not dissolving it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by winston001 View Post
    yes he was a bit obtuse... :d

    dave is pointing out that petrol and plastic are pretty closely linked and when they get together, unless there are bonds preventing it, they mix. Dissolve.

    You grab a gollup of heavy oil out of the ground, its so thick depending on where you get it, it needs heated pipes to move it. That's because one of the many constituents of oil is black tar.

    This also explains why "light" oils sell at a higher per barrel price eg. Brent crude is good, west texas intermediate a bit heavier but good too.

    The oil then goes to a "cracker" which is a distillation tower in a refinery. The oil is heated and breaks down into various types of hydrocarbons which are distilled off.

    The type of oil, its sulpher content, and the type of catalyst used determines the final percentages of product. Suffice to say that a barrel of oil does not equal a barrel of petrol - more like half. Here is a breakdown.

    47% gasoline for use in automobiles

    23% heating oil and diesel fuel

    18% other products, which includes petrochemical feedstock—products derived from petroleum principally for the manufacturing of chemicals, synthetic rubber and plastics

    10% jet fuel

    4% propane

    3% asphalt












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