Originally Posted by SixPackBack
crackin up laughing
Hardcore Biker
Revolution is in the air
Yeah, it does go both ways. But again, like you said, it's about being honest. Things change, no doubt, but if you ain't honest, what's the point?Heh, that goes both ways.
I once dated a girl who rabbited on about how she wasn't interested in 'anything serious'.
OK, I thought, fair call, good to be open about such things, etc.
So one day some, uh, stuff came up and I found it expedient to say bye-bye, and golly gosh, you shoulda seen the waterworks turn on! I guess she was a bit more interested in 'anything serious' than she'd let on.
Nothing like people giving themselves a little lesson about being honest, eh?
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"channellling the Pleideans"
just because she didnt want that person coming near her again with his nine inch tongue and ability to breathe through his ears. any normal person would be OK..
who the fuck is scared of an orgasm, really? Americans thats who.... says a lot doesnt it? I blame the Labour government.
I thought elections were decided by angry posts on social media. - F5 Dave
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I've seen one or two slightly disturbing ones.
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- mikey
Revolution is in the air
Would "righty tighty, lefty loosey" be applicable?
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Scared of an orgasm??....brother I'm scared of an erection, blood can only fill one head at a time
"channellling the Pleideans"
oh really?
I thought elections were decided by angry posts on social media. - F5 Dave
Pipe & slippers mandatory
I can understand your opinion, and suspect that it is widely held. I wish to offer a counterpoint.
I was still a virgin on my wedding night. I was 23.
Yep, I avoided sex due to my faith. And twenty-five years later, my wife remains the only woman I have ever slept with. Do I have any regrets? Not when my wife tells me that my virginity/sexual purity remains the most precious gift I have ever given her. Even when I've done something dumb (fortunately quite rare these days!), she will still reflect on that gift and generally/eventually forgive me.
I had plenty of clues during our engagement to assure me that my future wife was equally keen on sex! Without those clues, I probably would have re-thought things.....
Virginity gets bad press these days, and is often derided in movies and popular culture. The truth is quite different. In my opinion, it demonstrates self-control in a tangible way and makes it easier to expect faithfulness and build sexual trust/integrity after the rings are exchanged.
Our physical relationship has fluctuated in frequency over the years, but it has always remained an important part of our marriage. If anything, our physical relationship is better now than it's ever been.
I guess the telling question would be: would I change things if I had the opportunity to do it all again?
No way.
YMMV etc
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That's a bit callous...
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Revolution is in the air
Good on ya for sticking to your beliefs. You have to be true to yourself, IMHO.
I have a question, and please know I am not attacking yours or anyones beliefs. Why do many religious sects/denominations say not to have sex before marriage? I can understand the logic in the old days (pre-birth control) that you didn't want to have a bunch of kids, so abstinence was promoted and that you wanted to know who the father was for inheritance, support, etc. but other than that it seems more emotion/dogma based. Even in comparative religion courses I have taken, the answer always seems to get emotional as opposed to some other reason than those I mention above. As far as I ever saw, it wasn't in the ten commandments, which are the foundation for the whole Judeo/Christian/Islamic faiths.
I don't know much about Buddhism or other religions, as it goes.
Do you know? Again, I am not attacking you or anyones beliefs. As you'll note from my previous posts on this thread, I am all for standing by your values and beliefs, of which I have plenty of.
I have some good friends who are very religious and even when we have spoken of it they get all tweaked, like questioning isn't ok. Even "It's in the Bible and I believe it" would be a fine answer, I just never found that part in the bible, if its there. But, I may be wrong in how I interpreted it or didn't read it right.
Thanks...
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kiwibiker is full of love, an disrespect.
- mikey
Revolution is in the air
Great link. Answered that question pretty well.
"The views of religions and religious believers range widely, from holding that sex and the flesh are evil to the belief that sex is the highest expression of the divine. Views on sexuality may not even be shared among adherents of a particular sect. Some religions distinguish between sexual activities that are practiced for biological reproduction (sometimes allowed only when in formal marital status and at a certain age), and other activities practiced for sexual pleasure as immoral.
Although a popular hypothesis holds that a high degree of societal religiosity correlates with lower rates of non-monogamous sexual activity, a 2005 summary of various studies found that rates of sexually transmitted diseases, abortion, and early adolescent pregnancy are in fact lower in secular societies."
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I would have said a bit hairy, but eh...
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Yeah, you could call me "religious" I suppose. I have a faith, and no, I'm not bothered by questions. I occasionally stumble to answer clearly or concisely, so I can tend to waffle a bit until I eventually get to the point...I have some good friends who are very religious and even when we have spoken of it they get all tweaked, like questioning isn't ok. Even "It's in the Bible and I believe it" would be a fine answer, I just never found that part in the bible, if its there. But, I may be wrong in how I interpreted it or didn't read it right.
Thanks...
As far as scripture verses are concerned, I don't have any references to hand but there are verses in the new testament that refer to sexual self-control, and suggesting marriage if you are "burning with lust" or something similar. Promiscuity and adultery are predictably also no-no's. Sexual purity is a recurring theme.
Not everyone will agree with the choices I've made, and that's OK. I'm not suggesting it's for everyone, and frankly it's none of my business how others choose to live their lives. It worked for me, but I can see that it could potentially end in tears for others. Perhaps I hadn't made that clear enough with my earlier post, as I've noticed I've been red-blinged for it....
I simply offer my opinion on the premise that there is an alternative that avoids a lot of emotional and physical baggage being brought into a marriage.
About 80% of divorces end in marriage - to someone else. Of those remarriages, the biggest single reason for the subsequent marriage failing was unresolved issues from the previous relationship.
As far as sex is concerned, good sex is usually the product of a good relationship, not the reason. If areas of the relationship such as emotional needs, respect and trust are functioning well, and other areas such as finances, accommodation, jobs, family, and outside friendships are OK, then sex is usually very good. If good sex is one of only a few areas functioning well, then the relationship often doesn't last long.
As the yanks would say, your mileage may vary!
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