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    sorry this comment

    renegade master Its like hes going to get any more brain damaged if u bin right?
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    and the locale bike shops are allways a big help with puting u in contact with the people in the know. question how big its he. can he fit up on the tank like with you behind him. ie for a short ride
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue eyed savage View Post
    and the locale bike shops are allways a big help with puting u in contact with the people in the know. question how big its he. can he fit up on the tank like with you behind him. ie for a short ride
    He is about the same size as me maybe a little tinier and I would be very uncofortable with the idea of him against the tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikern1mpho View Post
    He is about the same size as me maybe a little tinier and I would be very uncofortable with the idea of him against the tank.
    Try him on the back of your bike around a deserted footy paddock, or summit similar. Low speed stuff...first gear... and see...

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    Quote Originally Posted by renegade master View Post
    Its like hes going to get any more brain damaged if u bin right?
    By the way Rhys is as quick as anything and is starting college this summer! Just cos your body is screwed doesn't mean that your brain don't work.
    We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl, year after year,
    Running over the same old ground.
    What have you found? The same old fears.
    Wish you were here. QWQ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikern1mpho View Post
    By the way Rhys is as quick as anything and is starting college this summer! Just cos your body is screwed doesn't mean that your brain don't work.
    Don't worry, he displayed his own brain-damage rather than Rhys's with his comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by renegade master View Post
    Its like hes going to get any more brain damaged if u bin right?
    That was in incredibly poor taste.

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    He's 21. Not a child. And, if I understand correctly , cerebral palsy (which is what he has) does not affect mental capacity. So, he's an adult , capable of making his own decisions, and accepting responsibility for his own safety.

    Why are you molly-coddling him ? Would you mother hen him the same way if he was "normal" except for some more "normal" disability - say an amputated arm ? Would you even involve his parents in the decision if that were the case? I wonder if Stephen Hawking has to get his parents approval before he does anything

    Explain it to him, the risks and issues, let him make his own decision. Let him figure out a way to incorporate whatever it takes to make him feel safe enough. Just exactly how you would if (say) your elderly father wanted a ride on the back of your bike (assuming he wasn't a biker)
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    try ulysses club in your area , a trike would be easier to lift him on and off the bike, as a first timer balance is an issuse and yuk! three wheels better than two to begin with
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    He's 21. Not a child. And, if I understand correctly , cerebral palsy (which is what he has) does not affect mental capacity. So, he's an adult , capable of making his own decisions, and accepting responsibility for his own safety.

    Why are you molly-coddling him ? Would you mother hen him the same way if he was "normal" except for some more "normal" disability - say an amputated arm ? Would you even involve his parents in the decision if that were the case? I wonder if Stephen Hawking has to get his parents approval before he does anything

    Explain it to him, the risks and issues, let him make his own decision. Let him figure out a way to incorporate whatever it takes to make him feel safe enough. Just exactly how you would if (say) your elderly father wanted a ride on the back of your bike (assuming he wasn't a biker)
    The reason I suggested that they get the agreement of parents caregivers etc is not for "his" benefit or protection, he can decide that for himself as you correctly suggest.

    I was concerned for those who wanted to help him achieve his goal of riding on a motorbike!

    IE: If it all turned to shit the PC brigade would have a field day at their expense, the public outcry against them would be all out of proportion!

    Believe me, we have seen it all before, even without any trouble. John.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldrider View Post
    The reason I suggested that they get the agreement of parents caregivers etc is not for "his" benefit or protection, he can decide that for himself as you correctly suggest.

    I was concerned for those who wanted to help him achieve his goal of riding on a motorbike!

    IE: If it all turned to shit the PC brigade would have a field day at their expense, the public outcry against them would be all out of proportion!

    Believe me, we have seen it all before, even without any trouble. John.
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    I have taken two or three with Cerebal Palsy for a few laps and other assorted "handicaps" (including blind and Spina Bifida (SP?)).
    Being a heavy bastard and a smooth rider helped. No straps just the fear of god and a belt loose enough for them to hold on to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldrider View Post
    IE: If it all turned to shit the PC brigade would have a field day at their expense, the public outcry against them would be all out of proportion!
    That they would and yet they would have the same feild day if everything went great and it was a feel good story for the papers.
    When I was in Napier I use to give a friends son a rides on the old XJ and he had cerebral palsy and he thoroughly enjoyed it (he was about 15-16). (It did make it easier that I had a top box with back rest and side panniers. I also use to take another friend for a ride who was blind she thought it was a blast as well...

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    climbing harness you both wear one and connect pillion to rider also gives something for pillion to hold on to, easy really
    I cannot put my finger on it now, the child has grown the dream has gone

    there'll be no more aaarrrrrggghhhhh but you may feel a little sick

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    Quote Originally Posted by renegade master View Post
    Its like hes going to get any more brain damaged if u bin right?
    You carn't be serious.....you need your head read! Very poor taste!

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