That's it. Not voting for Nat

**Zuki Bandit** · 14th August 2008, 07:51

Originally Posted by RiderInBlack

So what about the parents with special needs kids then?

My 5 year old son is special needs, I work full time, my wife works until lunch time when she goes to pick him up from school. Maybe it's harder for solo's to do? Im not so sure.

**Big Dave** · 14th August 2008, 09:26

Originally Posted by SixPackBack

applaud ACC in getting my surgery promptly, supporting and rehabilitating me; their performance was flawless.

I injured my spine in a motorcycle accident and they offered me $112 per week and a heap of paperwork. It's a Joke if you are self employed.

**MSTRS:Me** · 14th August 2008, 09:29

Originally Posted by doc

DPB wise don't attack the reciever, why not attack the cause of the problem . The fathers who avoid their responsibility.

Really? You remember that (slightly) drunk one night stand you had last year...she had a kid from that root of yours and you still can't remember her name and never did get her phone number. Oh, and she moved so you don't know where she lives. Guess what, sunshine...you were a sperm donor for her lifestyle. (story made up, for purposes of arguing a point only)
Harsh? Yes, perhaps...but this sort of thing happens more often than you'd think. Along with the 1000's of fathers who would rather not be absent, but aren't wanted by the mother

**marty** · 14th August 2008, 10:29

Originally Posted by McDuck

Ifi can do 30+ hours a week of work plus a 'full time' course why cant a mother get of there bums and do somthing? I am not saying full time-hell 3 days a week of 5 hours a day would do? I know of two single mothers that have full time jobs as well as 3 kids each. And the kids are absolutly fantastic, they live in a nice but not swankey house etc and it is BECAUSE of the mothers hard work they got where they are and the kids as like they are. The apple dosnt fall far from the tree, if the tree is a lazy arssed dole bludger then the apple will be to (90% of the time).

I know there are special scercemstances where this dose not apply but there cant be that many.

I'm saving this one for Hitcher.....

**jrandom** · 14th August 2008, 11:01

Originally Posted by Big Dave

I injured my spine in a motorcycle accident and they offered me $112 per week and a heap of paperwork. It's a Joke if you are self employed.

The 'income protection' side of ACC appears to be a bit less than perfect, but the cover for medical treatment for injuries is second to none in the world.

**Big Dave** · 14th August 2008, 11:08

Originally Posted by jrandom

The 'income protection' side of ACC appears to be a bit less than perfect, but the cover for medical treatment for injuries is second to none in the world.

Sure it is.

**jrandom** · 14th August 2008, 11:11

Originally Posted by Big Dave

Sure it is.

I like it when you agree with me.

**alanzs** · 14th August 2008, 11:14

Originally Posted by jrandom

I like it when you agree with me.

Don't get any ideas, but I agree with you as well.

**Oscar** · 14th August 2008, 11:21

Originally Posted by jrandom

The 'income protection' side of ACC appears to be a bit less than perfect, but the cover for medical treatment for injuries is second to none in the world.

Also, don't forget the "no blame" nature of the Act.
This saves us squillions on legal fees and insurance premiums...

**SPman** · 14th August 2008, 17:38

I hope National start to stop all this PC crap and start getting back to reality.

**alanzs** · 14th August 2008, 19:53

Originally Posted by SPman

There is no reality. Everything is just as it should be, always will be. Reality? What a concept!

**Sollyboy** · 14th August 2008, 20:43

Originally Posted by davereid

The kiwi bludger system at work.

Why should I work to pay 38% tax so solo mums can stay at home with their kids ?

Maybe, I should be able to work 38% less, and spend some time with mine.

This is a very timid step, not a great raving bold one.

I can't understand why ANY benefit would be paid without effort from the recipient.

This all so true

**placidfemme** · 14th August 2008, 21:28

Hmmm. I'm not a national fan, but this is something I do agree with.

As most have already said, this isnt about the solo parents with special needs kids.

Its about those people who are simply taking advantage. Its about those people who CAN work, but dont because... well why should they? No-ones going to make them and they get a cheque for sitting on thier asses.

I work my ass off and always have, and it bites knowing that my taxes from my hard work are going to some tosser who cant be screwed getting a job.

Yeah the economy is crashing. Yeah part time "kid friendly" jobs arnt easy to find. But you have to start somewhere, and when your not going to make an effort off your own bat, then good on National for being the pushing hand getting people out there.