One person one vote

[Oscar]

The most bashed group in this country are in fact white anglo saxon protestant male businessmen. That is NOT in any way intended as a racist statement.
I say send the Somalian and all his brothers and sisters back to where they came from. One reason they are here is votes for Labour, FACT.
Go to the library and take out a book on the eminent British politician Enoch Powell. So much of what he warned is now coming true. He was a realist, not a racist.

Enoch Powell?
This does you no credit, Robert.
You're better than that...

[Ixion]

That'll fix the problem.


"No representation without taxation".

Would you then in logic, extend that to granting voting rights to corporations (distinct from their shareholders). Since, after all, they pay taxes . "No taxation without representation". And overseas corporations pay, collectively, a LOT of tax.

[Mr Merde]

...Anybody know (apart from dictatorships) where one person doesn’t mean one vote?

...

Florida where even death doesnt prohibit you from having your opinion recorded by a proxy voter but having a name similar to a convicted felon does.

[Sanx]

Yeah WHY NOT????
Gee, I guess this means that I am not able to vote in your system. Despite the fact that my "work" is voluntary and I would do approximately 25 hours a week working for other people without a paycheck means that officially because I am "unemployed" that my voice does not count.
Fine... teach your own children to read properly then

There are always exceptions to such rules. If you do voluntary work for 25 hours a week, then there's possibly a way that could get taken into account. My comments was aimed at the legions of lazy fuckwits who do absolutely nothing all day other than drink the piss and spark up the smokes that their weekly benefit has paid for.

From the last line, I take it you're working as a teacher's aide or something similar in a school or pre-school? Well, if you're volunteering your time to a state school, and then getting paid by the State, there's a roundabout employer / employee relationship there. However, any such rules about taking volunteer work into account would have to be strict enough to prevent people from (ab)using their enrollment in sports clubs or churches and claiming all time they spend at the place is 'volunteer' work.

P.S. I have every intention of teaching my own kids to read properly, when I and the wife get around to having any. And you can be bloody certain they'll be reading just fine before they go to school.

[Robert Taylor]

Enoch Powell?
This does you no credit, Robert.
You're better than that...

No honestly, have you studied him ''overall'' rather than just remembering him for his ''rivers of blood speech'' ? A very very intelligent man and a war hero.

Try this one then, Michael Heseltine. Self made man ( Haymarket publishing etc ) A consumate Tory politician with a practical social conscience, didnt get along with Maggie. I believe David Cameron ( Britains next priminister ) is in the same mould.

[Oscar]

No honestly, have you studied him ''overall'' rather than just remembering him for his ''rivers of blood speech'' ? A very very intelligent man and a war hero.

Try this one then, Michael Heseltine. Self made man ( Haymarket publishing etc ) A consumate Tory politician with a practical social conscience, didnt get along with Maggie. I believe David Cameron ( Britains next priminister ) is in the same mould.

There's a hell of a difference between Heseltine and Powell.

Powell's predictions were in the main, wrong.

[Ocean1]

Would you then in logic, extend that to granting voting rights to corporations (distinct from their shareholders). Since, after all, they pay taxes . "No taxation without representation". And overseas corporations pay, collectively, a LOT of tax.

Overseas corperations? Not individuals? Not citizens?


Fuck off, what's logical about that?

[Bikernereid]

There's a hell of a difference between Heseltine and Powell.

Powell's predictions were in the main, wrong.

I live in the UK and we have so much racial tension here you would not believe it. Why has the BNP been doing so well at local elections and why has the SNP done so well recently too?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/1702799.stm
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...ys-495402.html

I being a humanitarian Conservative have very strong issues on immigration, however I am not a racists. I believe that so many of the problems can be laid at the floor of the politicians. We wanted cheap labour and shipped in immigrants like it was going out of fashion. Now we have the same situation with the expansion of the EU. When you have towns where 50% is made up of foreign national it causes problems, and when you have signs in businesses saying NO ENGLISH it has a tendancy to piss Brits/ English off! Can't think why tho!

I have no problem with people who are hard workers but in a capitalist society where so many immigrants will work illegally for less than the minimum wage and live with about 16 to a house how can Joe public compete and support his/her own family. It is hard enough with minumum wage for over 21s being set at £5.52 but with immigrant coming over to work for £3ish how can British people survive? And when EU nationals can come into the UK and claim child benefits for children living out of the UK, that can't be right!

As the credit crunch hits more people and they start losing thier homes I think you will find that race riots will start again! And Enoch will have been right yet again.

[Robert Taylor]

I live in the UK and we have so much racial tension here you would not believe it. Why has the BNP been doing so well at local elections and why has the SNP done so well recently too?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/1702799.stm
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...ys-495402.html

I being a humanitarian Conservative have very strong issues on immigration, however I am not a racists. I believe that so many of the problems can be laid at the floor of the politicians. We wanted cheap labour and shipped in immigrants like it was going out of fashion. Now we have the same situation with the expansion of the EU. When you have towns where 50% is made up of foreign national it causes problems, and when you have signs in businesses saying NO ENGLISH it has a tendancy to piss Brits/ English off! Can't think why tho!

I have no problem with people who are hard workers but in a capitalist society where so many immigrants will work illegally for less than the minimum wage and live with about 16 to a house how can Joe public compete and support his/her own family. It is hard enough with minumum wage for over 21s being set at £5.52 but with immigrant coming over to work for £3ish how can British people survive? And when EU nationals can come into the UK and claim child benefits for children living out of the UK, that can't be right!

As the credit crunch hits more people and they start losing thier homes I think you will find that race riots will start again! And Enoch will have been right yet again.

Having lived and worked in the UK for nearly five years I was very much aware of the racial tensions, these manifested themselves in the Southall riots when I was there. I can well remember helping to board up the shop windows even though where I worked was across the other side of London.
My grandfather was English and fought in the Somme, my father in the RNZAF, seconded to the RAF and stationed in England during WW2. Despite the connection where your colonials helped you guys out in the two great conflicts I am always gobsmacked at going through immigration into the UK. EU members ( including Germans ) go through the fast-track EU lanes. Conversely us poor colonials with NZ or Aussie passports get lumped in with the rest in the slow ''alien'' lanes.
In spite of that annoyance I have a great affection for your country and periodically purchase an international circulation of the Daily Telegraph to keep up with what is going on. Okay, thats a Tory sympathetic publication but it does look to me that the Labour Government over there has largely squandered the many positive gains made by Margaret Thatchers administrations. It also seems that we are suffering here from the same debilatating madness of social conditioning and political correctness.
Britain would have been a better place had they taken heed of Enoch Powells warnings, I am convinced of that. Before anyone here tries to compare Winston Peters with Enoch, forget it, they are not in the same league.

[idleidolidyll]

The trouble with fascists and particularly conservative fascists: is that they always think they are right and believe they should have the right to dictate to the rest of the population based on their own narrow minded principles.

Thankfully socialists and other left wingers invented democracy so these dipsticks don't have the control they crave

[Flatcap]

The trouble with fascists and particularly conservative fascists: is that they always think they are right and believe they should have the right to dictate to the rest of the population based on their own narrow minded principles.

Thankfully socialists and other left wingers invented democracy so these dipsticks don't have the control they crave

But I thought you said the filthy capitalists controlled democracy?

[Robert Taylor]

But I thought you said the filthy capitalists controlled democracy?

Some of us arent as confused or as brazenly polarised.

[Oscar]

The trouble with fascists and particularly conservative fascists: is that they always think they are right and believe they should have the right to dictate to the rest of the population based on their own narrow minded principles.

Thankfully socialists and other left wingers invented democracy so these dipsticks don't have the control they crave

But you are always right aren't you?
And the Left never dictates, does it...?

[scracha]

I live in the UK and we have so much racial tension here you would not believe it. Why has the BNP been doing so well at local elections and why has the SNP done so well recently too?

Don't compare the SNP to the BNP. Scotland wanting independence has fuck all to do with Polish immigrants.

Try this one then, Michael Heseltine. Self made man ( Haymarket publishing etc ) A consumate Tory politician with a practical social conscience, didnt get along with Maggie. I believe David Cameron ( Britains next priminister ) is in the same mould.

The same bloke who said that children like me* should have been forced into adoption. If that's your idea of a practical social conscience then maybe you'll regard Enoch Powell as a liberal.

*those from single parent families.

Self made man? He went to one of the oldest and most egalitarian public schools in England before going to Oxford and then starting his business with his inheritance.

[avgas]

I put my faith in the Darwinism box.
Otherwise there is no point in striving for achievement really.