Annoying Christian sayings

[imdying]

Yes - tens of millions of people have been killed for reasons that didn't involve religion. But you don't find anyone using their atheism was an excuse for going out and committing genocide, do you? Therein lies the difference.

I missed the news flash where money and land were now good reasons for killing tens of millions of people, funny that.

[Mikkel]

I missed the news flash where money and land were now good reasons for killing tens of millions of people, funny that.

You don't kill tens of millions of people for money and land without having some sort of driving force behind it. Sure that driving force could, at the heart, be an ambition for land and money - but it'll almost always be disguised as religious or political move, with a fanatical support.

[imdying]

but it'll almost always be disguised as religious or political move, with a fanatical support.

That's not religion driving it then... that's just good old sin

[Sanx]

That's not religion driving it then... that's just good old sin

Oh, so killing tens of millions of people because you want land and money is a sin, but killing tens of millions of people because voices in your head told you to isn't.

Thanks for clearing that up.

[imdying]

Oh, so killing tens of millions of people because you want land and money is a sin, but killing tens of millions of people because voices in your head told you to isn't.

Thanks for clearing that up.

If that excites you... then get this... all sins are equal... killing people in their millions, yeah, no more of a sin than breaking the speed limit (somewhere in the bible it talks about obeying the laws of the land, give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar or similar).

[carver]

all christians should be fed to the lions or burnt at the stake.

mormonisim is the only true tolerant religion

[Mikkel]

If that excites you... then get this... all sins are equal... killing people in their millions, yeah, no more of a sin than breaking the speed limit (somewhere in the bible it talks about obeying the laws of the land, give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar or similar).

And you don't think that is fucked up?

Honestly?

[Sanx]

If that excites you... then get this... all sins are equal... killing people in their millions, yeah, no more of a sin than breaking the speed limit (somewhere in the bible it talks about obeying the laws of the land, give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar or similar).

Matthew 22:21 -"Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's"

The amusing thing is that this verse was in relation, to and later used as a reason for, breaking the laws of the land; specifically those laws around taxation. The phrase, attributed to Jesus, is sufficiently ambiguous that it can be quoted in favour of positions that are diametrically opposite to each other.

You would have been better off quoting Romans 13:1 - "Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God and those which exist are established by God."

But getting back to your statement earlier ... are you seriously trying to say that genocide is equal in severity to speeding? Are you insane?

[imdying]

There's a whole heap of insane/fucked up things in the world, what's the big deal?

[Mikkel]

There's a whole heap of insane/fucked up things in the world, what's the big deal?

You don't have to be part of the madness though. If anything Christians should appreciate that man has the ability to distinguish between good and bad... And that you have a responsibility to live a good life.

If organised religion - based upon these virtues or not - happens to be bad, then maybe the good man is the one who thinks for himself.

[Sanx]

You don't have to be part of the madness though. If anything Christians should appreciate that man has the ability to distinguish between good and bad... And that you have a responsibility to live a good life.

Unfortunately, the meaning of good usually gets boiled down to in accordance with god's law. And as anyone with an impartial interest in religion knows, god's law can, and often is, used as justification for whatever evil the perpetrator wants to justify.

Don't like jews? God's law says they must be killed.
Don't like abortion? God's law says abortion's evil, and so those working in abortion clinics must be killed.
Don't like alcohol? God's law says that alcohol is evil and therefore all pubs should be firebombed.

Etc. Etc.

One might expect someone with a faith to understand that man can distinguish between good and evil, but you're expecting that someone's interpretation of what is good and what is evil matches your own. And anyone with a strong enough faith is more than capable of perverting the understanding of good and evil enough to convince themselves that they are on the side of the angels, no matter what atrocity they've committed.

And as for thinking for oneself? Nope - that's something religion has a huge problem with.

[Big Dave]

mormonisim is the only true tolerant religion

Fark that - I have enough trouble getting one wife to mow the lawns.

[carver]

Fark that - I have enough trouble getting one wife to mow the lawns.

come on, its the only true religion

[Sanx]

come on, its the only true religion

OK. First post was a good joke. Not funny any more.

[NOMIS]

I think about 90% of the posts on here really need to understand Christianity abit more.

Carver- im not even going to bother there.

Sanx - Alcohole is not evil its the over indulgence it actually states drunkeness not alcohole.. And i agree with that aswel. Especially with NZ's drinking habbits.

Gods law gets changed alot by people they like to see it and twist is in what ever way they can to suit themselves and yes it sucks. Hard to see it sometimes.