Fucking darkies

[Mikkel]

Im a loverrrrrrrr not a fighterrrrrrrr

You must be a racer too... With all of those "r"s you'd have to be pretty fucking fast

[marty]

You must be a racer too... With all of those "r"s you'd have to be pretty fucking fast

or from Gore

[fire eyes]

or from Gore

Worse! .. from Hawera LOL

[musicman]

Devil there's no way you can use a generalist term and refer to a specific incident.

"Fucking darkies" means all dark skinned people are bad in some way.

Okeedokee people. This is where people seem to be having trouble.

If i'd just piped up and said "Fucking darkies, they're all criminals" then sure, I'd expect all this crap.

There is COMPLETELY a way I can use what I said to refer to a specific incident and it's called context. Take the content of my thread away from the topic and you have one thing. Put it back in and you have another.

Yes I can (and will) refer to that small group of dropkicks however I like. As I mentioned in an earlier post (around page 2 or 3) I respect all regardless of their colour/ethnicity, by default. Once they've done something like this, that's it, those specific people go down in my rankings and wont get my respect. Not the whole ethnic group, not all people with similar coloured skin, just the perpetrators.

Yes, that is also how I interpreted it.

I don't see how saying something like "f**king darkies" can be used to apply to every dark-skinned person in the universe. Of course there will be truly racist people that are prejudiced against every person of a certain race, but Devil isn't one of those (those people are very obvious).

I'm an Asian and I sometimes use the term "stupid Asians", does that mean I'm saying ALL Asians, including me, are stupid? No, of course not, it means whichever Asian is being stupid, is stupid.

When a person says something like "silly boy" does that mean every boy is silly? And does "hot chick" mean every chick is hot? No, of course not, they only apply to the specific person they are used on, otherwise we would have people saying these are sexist remarks. So why would "dumb Asian" or "f**king darkie" be any different?

[imdying]

So why "f**king darkie" be any different?

Because in this country, if you hate those bloody niggers, you're some sort of criminal

Really, it's the Crown's fault... if they'd done the job properly 150 years ago, this wouldn't be an issue.

[Devil]

Really, it's the Crown's fault... if they'd done the job properly 150 years ago, this wouldn't be an issue.

Even I wouldn't touch that one!

[imdying]

Heh, I'm just winding... I should be in the garage making a mould

[Owl]

I thought they were Poly's not Mori oris.

No thats where wrong they are human

Pull your head in enigma51! Yes they are human (big fucken?) and yes they can be Polynesian too. Its PC crap like that, that promotes racism. If you want to be the stand up whitey and tell a Maori he's human, just like you, then fill yer boots.
When I meet someone, the first thing that strikes me is gender, followed by ethnicity (colour), size and features! I imagine you do a similar thing, only you'll dodge around the ethnicity like its invisible and you only see them as "human". Well bollocks to that! All races ARE different, have different cultures and deserve to be recognized as different.
What’s coming next in this PC world? Will we no longer be able to call a woman a woman or a man a man, because gender is irrelevant and we’re all human?

Rant over.

Devil, I enjoyed reading your post and hope these assholes get what’s coming to them. Bottom feeders is an appropriate description, though I hope you don’t offend any fish!

[MIZXR]

I was brought up with the understanding that Mori Ori were the first Maori to migrate to New Zealand.. the missionairies were the first pakeha ever seen.

cool so you admit to wiping your own kind out of NZ and off to another island
friendly kind yours

No Explorers, whalers and traders

Traditional Marae actually couldnt sustain current climate/element conditions .. thats why modern materials/technology is/are used.

So that would make them just a normal building then if not built for traditional reasons in non traditional places?

Also traditional marae could not sustain the volume of people that actually attend events now. Back then, huge gatherings were not common and were really only located at certain Marae ..

No shit you normally ate each other and lots of the tribes had issues with their neighbours.

with the convenience of modern transport, it means people can get to events easier, faster and actually participate!

thats not traditional.

Ohh and you don't have to play nice with me! I don't play nice! Im just keeping it real lol ... and how do you know I wasnt talking about raw sugar baby! hahahahahaha .... Im a loverrrrrrrr not a fighterrrrrrrr

[/QUOTE]

At least you didn't tell me I deserved to be run over

[jc-vtr]

sounds like a typical kaffir thing!!man they are just a waste of space,sure there are good ones but the majority are wankers and spoil it for the rest,now call me racist but if it was a bunch of white guys doing this shit id say the same about them,but every single time its always these black bastards,i have bros living next door and they swear and yell and party,i dont even like having my garage door open for fear that they will spot 1 of my bikes and decide to target my house!!! now thats not a way to live but its reality.im sick of it, i cant walk down the street with my wife and baby and if you accidently look at them then they want to take you on and they would for no reason,i say get a grip and a job like the rest of us, why should it be so easy for them!!!!!!! now dont judge me, im not saying they are all bad but man alot of them are!!

[fire eyes]

cool so you admit to wiping your own kind out of NZ and off to another island
friendly kind yours
No Explorers, whalers and traders
So that would make them just a normal building then if not built for traditional reasons in non traditional places?
No shit you normally ate each other and lots of the tribes had issues with their neighbours.
thats not traditional.At least you didn't tell me I deserved to be run over

Plenty of educational material available for reference!

Traditional reasons yes. Traditional process yes. Traditional locations most of the time. Traditional materials .. no only in part .. again as reasons outlined in previous post.

Yes absolutely! tribal wars & definitely cannabalism. I remember my granfather saying his grandmother always said with a wide smile 'he reka te tangata' meaning the person was sweet .. in reference to eating them ... but I must point out .. (and this should bring in some interesting posts lol) .. she never actually ate any Pakeha .. apparently it was considered diseased meat! I personally havent eaten human meat so cannot confirm its sweetness.

Ohh MIZXR .. where would the fun be in running you over? far more entertaining keeping you alive I would think!

[skidMark]

Got shot in the back with a paintball gun this afternoon on the way home from work.
Waiting at lights to turn right from Onewa rd into Birkenhead ave, car pulled up behind, then pulled out to go straight ahead. *THWAP* shot in the backpack as they came past about 1m from me. Took off after the bastards who had to stop at the next lights and did the expected "what the french toast was that?!". Three poly's, in their 30's all acting the man. Back seat passenger started to open the door as though going to get out so just walked the bike backwards, got their plate, did a U turn a parked up 50m down the road and *555'd them. Followed it up with a formal complaint at the cop shop immediately afterwards.

Godamn bottom feeders.

KILLER BEEZ

[MIZXR]

Ha and I always thought it was the blankets that made them sick.... guess not

Now I'm really worried bout you calling me sugar. Brings on a whole new meaning.

So going to use that saying in the next cultural awareness (read Maori loving) course I'm forced on. Thanks.

[Ixion]

Yes, that is also how I interpreted it.

I don't see how saying something like "f**king darkies" can be used to apply to every dark-skinned person in the universe. Of course there will be truly racist people that are prejudiced against every person of a certain race, but Devil isn't one of those (those people are very obvious).

I'm an Asian and I sometimes use the term "stupid Asians", does that mean I'm saying ALL Asians, including me, are stupid? No, of course not, it means whichever Asian is being stupid, is stupid.

When a person says something like "silly boy" does that mean every boy is silly? And does "hot chick" mean every chick is hot? No, of course not, they only apply to the specific person they are used on, otherwise we would have people saying these are sexist remarks. So why would "dumb Asian" or "f**king darkie" be any different?

Just so.

The use of stereotypical expressions is justified where there is a reasonable correlation between the (objectionable) behaviour of the individual and that of the (stereotyped) community, and where that behaviour is not denounced or proscribed by the group

For instance : Members of the Mormon church commonly evangelise by going round and knocking on peoples' doors (No offence Mr Carver, nothing personal and props to them for following their beliefs, just need an example).

Such evangelism is objected to by some people, whose rest is thus disturbed (or who are, perhaps, mid shag) They may legitimately declaim "Bloody Mormons, interrupting people like that". There is a close fit betwen the individual and the group. That is not to imply that EVERY Mormon has knocked on the objector's door, nor to deny that there may be some Mormons who never disturb people. Howver, many Mormons do do so, and the Mormons , as a group, are unlikely to condemn them for it.

Likewise, a traffic cop who has just issued a ticket to a motorcyclist for riding at 200kph whilst sitting on the front mudguard (once again Mr carver, nothing personal) , may declaim "Bloody nmotorcyclists, always speeding". Once again there is a close correlation between the individual and the group. That is not to say that every motorcyclist breaks the law (there may well be motorcyclists who never speed. Well, it's theoretically possible). Just that the behaviour of the individual is typical of the group. Biut most bikers do speed (sometimes , anyway. Except me.). And as a group we are unlikely to condemn or proscribe those who do.

Contrary wise however , there may well be motorcyclists who are Mormons. But it would be wrong for the traffic cop who has stopped one to castigate Mormons as a group for breaches of the road rules (ie to say "Bloody Mormons always speeding"). By and large Mormons are probably no more likely to speed than any other group. Or for the blue-balled complainant to cry "Bloody motorcyclists, knocking on peoples doors ". By and large motorcyclists do not knock on folks' doors.

In the instance that started this thread, the OP was assaulted , by being shot at with a paint ball gun. The deed was done by "darkies" (by which we may infer Polynesians ). He condemns "bloody darkies" as a group for the sins of individuals. We have seen that this is legitimate if the objectionable behaviour is reasonably typical of the group as a whole , and is not denounced by the group. The question therefore is : is such antisocial behaviour typical of Polynesians, and not denounced by them.

I can offer no certain opinion on that. I know Polynesians who would be horrified by such behaviour . But by and large I fear it must be said that antisocial thuggery is not atypical of Polynesian society (male Polynesian society particularly) and does not seem to be strongly deprecated by them .

So, probably, Mr Devils condemnation is justified. He is saying in effect " I object strongly to the conduct of these people. It is typical of the behaviour of the group to which they belong, and which I will perjoratively denounce". That is rather long winded. "Bloody darkies" says the same thing more concisely. He does not thereby imply or declare that every "darkie" does such things.

[CHOPPA]

come with me into town on a sat night and lets see whos racist..... Seems to be pretty one sided, if i call someone black then im racist but they can call me white...? Problem is theres not enough white guys that stand up for them selves, if a bunch of maoris see other maoris in a fight they jump in, i have been in the situation many times when everyone around will let me take on a whole fucken tribe. All my maoris mates are some of the best guys to have as mates. If your racist it means you hate them because they are black brown whatever, you will find 99% of people aint like that but when there is someone you do hate and you are trying to explain them why is it you cant give a detailed explaination? If i ever have trouble with a white guy i will always describe him as a white guy as well. I hate it when people throw around the racist word your the people that cause the problems!